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Continuation Part 19: Amanda Knox/Raffaele Sollecito

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Vixen said:
Amanda concealed from the police it was missing and was also evasive with the court.
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Not knowing is not the same as concealing or being evasive. So, that means the lamp offers NO PROBATIVE VALUE.
 
Vixen said:
Well, you're postulating that Rudy climbed into a second floor broken glass window with nary a trace.

So, "Bill", whose was the ladies size 37 bloodoutlined footprint found in the murder room, the fair hair in Mez' hand and ditto across the top of Mez bag placed contrivedly on the bed?
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And your postulating that the absence of that evidence is proof that he didnt. Not a very good premise when you consider that only a few swabs of DNA were taken and that Rudy may have been wearing gloves.

You're also suggesting that something is in evidence that isnt. There was no blood outlined ladies sized 37 shoe print in the murder room. Just as those weren't Raffaele's shoes.
 
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Vixen said:
Well, you're postulating that Rudy climbed into a second floor broken glass window with nary a trace.

So, "Bill", whose was the ladies size 37 bloodoutlined footprint found in the murder room, the fair hair in Mez' hand and ditto across the top of Mez bag placed contrivedly on the bed?
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"There" "was" "no" "evidence" "of" "this".
 
Vixen said:
They had each other's back.
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Raf and Amanda couldn't perfect their alibi with times and menu yet Rudi and Amanda perfected "having each other backs" without speaking or communicating. Did they agree to have Rudi finger Raf?
 
Vixen said:
Well, you're postulating that Rudy climbed into a second floor broken glass window with nary a trace.

So, "Bill", whose was the ladies size 37 bloodoutlined footprint found in the murder room, the fair hair in Mez' hand and ditto across the top of Mez bag placed contrivedly on the bed?
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There were splotches of some footprints that didn't test positive for blood, certainly not Meredith's blood, and the best the prosecution could claim is that they were compatible with Amanda's feet. Were they compatible with Laura's or Filomena's? Do you have their foot sizes handy? Or maybe they were obviously American feet of German ancestry.

Where did those feet pick up the blood? Were there the same footprints in the murder room? Did the amount of blood diminish as the steps continued? Oh, that's right they didn't even prove they were made in blood or even get the TMB test to react.
 
Desert Fox said:
Not quite true. . . .Amanda was convicted of the Italian equivalent of slander although likely to be overturned by the ECHR eventually.
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You are clearly correct and I thank you but we were talking about before the murder. The contention was that Rudi should have been off the street as a burglar or some such thing and Vixen astutely pointed out Rudi hadn't been convicted.
 
Grinder said:
You are clearly correct and I thank you but we were talking about before the murder. The contention was that Rudi should have been off the street as a burglar or some such thing and Vixen astutely pointed out Rudi hadn't been convicted.
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Fair enough. My thoughts were that Guede was later convicted of robbery related crimes however and that is where you were going.
 
Desert Fox said:
Fair enough. My thoughts were that Guede was later convicted of robbery related crimes however and that is where you were going.
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Yes he was convicted of possession of stolen items and trespass IIRC.

I was merely pointing out that if Rudi's lack of conviction is at all relevant then the kids' lack of convictions is as relevant.
 
Grinder said:
The Google translation is unreadable. If you have a readable one please post it.

While I would welcome sanctions we've seen this before and then it disappears.
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I was able to understand it with Google translate.

Perugia, December 4, 2015 - The disciplinary section of the CSM has inflicted the penalty of censure to prosecutor of Perugia Giuliano Mignini, owner of the proceedings on the murder of Meredith Kercher, came under proceedings on charges of violating the law for banning, just after his arrest, which took place on 6 November 2007 to Raffaele Sollecito (acquitted last March definitively with Amanda Knox of murder) had talks with counsel without issuing a written ruling and motivated.

The 'court robes', chaired by Councillor layman Anthony Leone, issued its ruling after the hearing took place in the Palace of the Marshals this morning. Mignini, according to the incrimination made by the Attorney General of the Supreme Court, had caused "unjust damage stopped," uttering "orally, with serious and inexcusable breach of the law", the measure of "extension of the right of stopped to confer with counsel ", in" stark contrast "with the rule contained in the Criminal Procedure Code prescribes that a" reasoned decree "and" / disclosure "to the beneficiaries. The substitute pg of Cassation, Luigi Saved, but considered "proven" facts described in chief of incrimination but had stressed at the hearing the acquittal of Mignini, (defended by Councillor of the Supreme Court Piercamillo Davigo) considering the fact "of little relevance ", it is taking into account that Sollecito was allowed to speak with his lawyer, the lawyer Titian Germans, before the interrogation warranty. The request pg not 'was therefore welcomed by the college disciplinary will deposit' within one month the motives of his verdict.
 
Desert Fox said:
I was able to understand it with Google translate.

Perugia, December 4, 2015 - The disciplinary section of the CSM has inflicted the penalty of censure to prosecutor of Perugia Giuliano Mignini, owner of the proceedings on the murder of Meredith Kercher, came under proceedings on charges of violating the law for banning, just after his arrest, which took place on 6 November 2007 to Raffaele Sollecito (acquitted last March definitively with Amanda Knox of murder) had talks with counsel without issuing a written ruling and motivated.

The 'court robes', chaired by Councillor layman Anthony Leone, issued its ruling after the hearing took place in the Palace of the Marshals this morning. Mignini, according to the incrimination made by the Attorney General of the Supreme Court, had caused "unjust damage stopped," uttering "orally, with serious and inexcusable breach of the law", the measure of "extension of the right of stopped to confer with counsel ", in" stark contrast "with the rule contained in the Criminal Procedure Code prescribes that a" reasoned decree "and" / disclosure "to the beneficiaries. The substitute pg of Cassation, Luigi Saved, but considered "proven" facts described in chief of incrimination but had stressed at the hearing the acquittal of Mignini, (defended by Councillor of the Supreme Court Piercamillo Davigo) considering the fact "of little relevance ", it is taking into account that Sollecito was allowed to speak with his lawyer, the lawyer Titian Germans, before the interrogation warranty. The request pg not 'was therefore welcomed by the college disciplinary will deposit' within one month the motives of his verdict.
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I was also able to read the auto translate but it is well short of being clear. rather than just reproduce the Google since you understand it please rewrite in a form that is clear.
 
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Perugia, December 4, 2015-The disciplinary section of the Msm has imposed the sanction of censure to the pm of Perugia Giuliano Mignini, holder of the proceeding the murder of Meredith Kercher, finished under proceedings on charges of violating the law for having banned immediately after the catch, which occurred on November 6, 2007, Raffaele Sollecito (acquitted last March in a final, with Amanda Knox , from the charge of murder) to have talks with a lawyer without issuing an injunction written and reasoned.

The ' Court of togas, presided over by a lay Councillor Antonio Leone, issued its ruling after the hearing took place in the Palace of the marshals this morning. According to the accusations made by the Prosecutor mignini, the Supreme Court, had caused "harm to stopped," uttering "orally, with serious and inexcusable breach of law", the "extension of the right of the stopped to confer with counsel", in "stark contrast" to the norm contained in the code of criminal procedure which prescribes a "reasoned Decree" and "delivery/performance" to entitled persons. The substitute pg of Cassation, Louis Saved, while considering "tested" the facts described in the chapter of accusations, had urged at the hearing the acquittal of Mignini, (defended by the Supreme Court Councillor Piercamillo Davigo) deeming the fact "of little significance", taking into account that was allowed to Prompt to speak to his lawyer, the lawyer Tiziano Tedeschi, before cross-examination of guarantee. Pg's request was therefore accepted by the College disciplinary depositing ' within a month the motives of his verdict.
 
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