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Marco Rubio is done

C_Felix said:
Did Rubio ever have a real chance?

I don't think so, therefore he can't be done.
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Frankly, I think that he has the best shot of any of these jokers to win the general election but Republican primary voters are too stupid and fanatical to see that.
 
Mike! said:
I'm not familiar with the Prognosticators, or their pitchers, what league are they in, and which major city are they generally associated with?
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Bush league. They mostly play for Fox News. They do, sometimes, become free agents, a la Glenn Beck.

The first minute or so of this clip has the highlights of a now-famous, Morris "pitch." Note the confidence with which he does the windup and delivery...



ETA: And just for grins, here's a collection of Glenn Beck pitches...
 
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There's been considerable ink over the past couple of days after the NYT reported that Rubio's actually passed Bush as the the betting sites' favorite to cop the nomination.
 
I think ,after the third debate, Rubio is on the verge of replacing Jeb as the GOP Establishement's favorite.
 
dudalb said:
I think ,after the third debate, Rubio is on the verge of replacing Jeb as the GOP Establishement's favorite.
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Yes, sir.

British bookies (party nomination)

Rubio 2:1
JEB 3:1
Trump ~4:1
Carson 8:1
 
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JEb will probably use the terrible way the debate was modded (boy, did CNBC blow it) as en excuse for his crappy performance last night, but he really needs to come out swiging in the next one.
 
dudalb said:
JEb will probably use the terrible way the debate was modded (boy, did CNBC blow it) as en excuse for his crappy performance last night, but he really needs to come out swiging in the next one.
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Jeb(!)'s only hope is if he can hang on long enough for Trump to get bored/burned out and Rubio doesn't endear himself to the establishment in that time.

He has enough money to limp along into New Hampshire (I think), but Rubio is looking really good. He speaks the language of the Tea Party but his policies themselves are actually pro-establishment(mostly). And he polls really well vs Hillary.
 
Tony Stark said:
Frankly, I think that he has the best shot of any of these jokers to win the general election but Republican primary voters are too stupid and fanatical to see that.
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His main negative that comes across in interviews is that he just doesn't seem comfortable being interviewed. Frankly, he looks like I would look if you put me in front of network camera. That is not a good look.
 
Republicans continue to eat their own.

Yes, Marco Rubio’s Finances Are a Big Deal
Becky Quick, a CNBC correspondent, asked Rubio the following question:

Senator Rubio, you yourself have said that you’ve had issues. You have a lack of bookkeeping skills. You accidentally intermingled campaign money with your personal money. You faced foreclosure on a second home that you bought. And just last year you liquidated a sixty-eight-thousand-dollar retirement fund. That’s something that cost you thousands of dollars in taxes and penalties. In terms of all of that, it raises the question whether you have the maturity and wisdom to lead this seventeen-trillion-dollar economy. What do you say?
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How Much Do Marco Rubio's Personal Finances Matter?
But the issue hasn’t gone away. On Thursday, David Catanese got his hands on the full version of a PowerPoint slideshow that Bush aides showed at their weekend retreat and regroup. One of the major takeaways from the retreat was that Bush would attack Rubio, his ascendant home-state rival, and the slideshow included this: ...

“Rubio is about to go through a period of much more intensive media scrutiny,” Lizza wrote. “Complaining about media bias won’t be enough to get him through it.”
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Wasn't that slideshow meant as a pitch to campaign donors to convince them to stick with JEB! instead of running to Rubio?
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Republicans continue to eat their own.

Yes, Marco Rubio’s Finances Are a Big Deal

How Much Do Marco Rubio's Personal Finances Matter?
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I don't think this is a great indicator of how he would manage to the nation's finances. Many, many members of Congress own assets in excess of a million dollars, but we always run deficits because their self-interest is not closely aligned with the country's. The fact Rubio's running for the Republican Party's nomination means he'll be a disaster when it comes to the budget.
 
So Rubio's a regular American who has experienced some hard times and even made some bad decisions? What's the problema?
 
Cain said:
I don't think this is a great indicator of how he would manage to the nation's finances. Many, many members of Congress own assets in excess of a million dollars, but we always run deficits because their self-interest is not closely aligned with the country's. The fact Rubio's running for the Republican Party's nomination means he'll be a disaster when it comes to the budget.
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No, it's a suggestion he's corrupt and used campaign donations for personal benefit. It goes back further than recent campaign finances.

Records show Marco Rubio spent thousands with GOP credit card
U.S. Senate candidate Marco Rubio charged grocery bills, repairs to the family minivan and purchases from a wine store less than a mile from his West Miami home to the Republican Party of Florida while he was speaker of the Florida House, according to records obtained by the St. Petersburg Times/Miami Herald...

But party spokeswoman Katie Gordon said the card was not supposed to be used for personal expenses. "The RPOF American Express card is a corporate card and is meant to be used for business expenses," she said when asked about the party's policy.

IRS rules for political parties, which are tax-exempt, require that their donations go exclusively toward influencing elections.

Records show Rubio sent payments to American Express totaling $13,900 for his personal expenses during his tenure as House speaker. But those payments were not made monthly. He made no contributions to the bill during one six-month stretch in 2007, the records show.
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So basically when he got caught he paid the money back.

Seriously, who doesn't carry two credit cards? Why would you need to charge personal expenses on the company card?

Marco Rubio's blatant lie about his personal finances should worry you
There are two issues here. One is the substance of the question: Rubio and his "scandal plagued"-doesn't-begin-to-describe-it friend, former Rep. David Rivera, only last summer sold the house which had at one point been in foreclosure. That is a fact, not a "discredited attack." And so on. The financial problems and mismanagement detailed in the question were accurate, so make of his personal finances what you will.
But whatever you make of Rubio's personal finances, pay attention to his lying. Because he didn't flinch, he didn't equivocate. He seemed sincere and a little wounded as he dismissed that list of true facts as "a litany of discredited attacks from Democrats and my political opponents" and said he wouldn't address them because it would "waste 60 seconds." Sincere, wounded ... and lying.
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He's toast.
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
No, it's a suggestion he's corrupt and used campaign donations for personal benefit. It goes back further than recent campaign finances.
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Your links were explicitly about personal finances, which the debate moderator tied to managing the economy. Corruption is another accusation altogether.

He's toast.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
 
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