Hillary Clinton is Done

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bruto said:
I'm all for comparing Hillary with Bill. I quail at the thought that we'll have to endure another eight year nightmare of peace.
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Like Bosnia, Iraq, Sudan, Afghanistan?

Don't kid yourself Hillary is an old school warmonger and regime change fanatic.
 
Loss Leader said:
He was impeached for perjury in a deposition in a civil case that was settled before trial.

And, as if this weren't clear enough, he was not convicted. He has never been convicted of any illegal act by any tribunal.

In any case, was Jimmy Carter a liar when he gave the Canadians credit for the Argo rescue?

Was George H. W. Bush a liar when he represented that US troops would make a beach landing in Kuwait and not enter Iraq?

Lying isn't the reason you dislike the Clintons. Lying is the reason you've assigned to support your dislike for the Clintons. There's a big difference.
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You are correct. I don't dislike the Clintons for lying. I dislike the Clintons for his engagement in sexual misconduct and her treatment of his accusers. And many other policy reasons too.

I'll amend that, I do somewhat dislike the lies but I understand them; the full truth would have derailed his and her political careers.
 
16.5 said:
Like Bosnia
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Probably the model case for international intervention in a civil war, Bosnia was a success for the US, the world, and for the Bosnians who generally stopped dying.


Iraq
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Enforcement of a no-fly zone and targeted airstrikes mostly to protect Kurdish areas within Iraq. Shown to be necessary by the fact that removal of Sadam by W caused a power vacuum and civil war that continues to this day.


Sudan, Afghanistan?
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Targeted airstrikes against suspected terrorist camps.


Don't kid yourself Hillary is an old school warmonger and regime change fanatic.
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Which of these examples is supposed to constitute either war or regime change?
 
Loss Leader said:
Which of these examples is supposed to constitute either war or regime change?
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When did I say they were, somebody asked about Bill's record on offensive military action (SEXIST!) and I responded.

Hillary has her own war mongering to take responsibility for (Iraq war resolution vote, the ongoing disaster that is Libya just to mention two)

Hell take a gander at my sig, her top adviser was out and out Jonesing for Regime Change in the Middle east and was mocking Obama for not moving quickly enough.
 
 
16.5 said:
Iraq war resolution vote
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You're blaming Hillary Clinton for agreeing with a Republican President based on misinformation supplied by the same Republican President?

Even though her vote agreed with 58% of Democrats in the Senate and 40% of Democrats in the House?

I'm sure she also enjoyed The Cosby Show when it was on. Does this mean she supports rape?
 
Loss Leader said:
You're blaming Hillary Clinton for agreeing with a Republican President based on misinformation supplied by the same Republican President?

Even though her vote agreed with 58% of Democrats in the Senate and 40% of Democrats in the House?

I'm sure she also enjoyed The Cosby Show when it was on. Does this mean she supports rape?
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She didn't exactly give her husband's accusers the "right to be believed".
 
Loss Leader said:
You're blaming Hillary Clinton for agreeing with a Republican President based on misinformation supplied by the same Republican President?

Even though her vote agreed with 58% of Democrats in the Senate and 40% of Democrats in the House?

I'm sure she also enjoyed The Cosby Show when it was on. Does this mean she supports rape?
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so we agree on the Libya thing? Cools.

"blaming"? I don't even know what that means, I like lots of others are making sure she was held accountable for her choices. What did she not know that 60% of the House Democrats knew. In fact, she knew as well as anybody that the intelligence relied on included the same intelligence that caused Bill Clinton to authorize Operation Desert Fox
 
wareyin said:
So, is Clinton done, yet?

Not according to the latest polls, where she increased her already substantial lead over Sanders.

eta: Also, this poll
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I'm not too worried about national polls this far out from any actual national voting. If these numbers are showing up next spring you might have something to crow about, depending upon what you think an HRC national candidacy portends. I'm more concerned currently about what the early primary states look like, most people won't start seriously considering politics until the early primaries begin.
 
bruto said:
I'm all for comparing Hillary with Bill. I quail at the thought that we'll have to endure another eight year nightmare of peace.
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"Quail at the thought?" What does that mean?

I think Hillary's days of feeling the need to make up for not having a penis by being a bigger hawk are well behind her.


On another note, it's interesting how Bill has become a campaign asset for Hillary while GW remains a serious liability for Jeb!.
 
Mike! said:
She didn't exactly give her husband's accusers the "right to be believed".
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That's not exactly fair.

You can't blame a wife for believing a philandering husband isn't one just like you can't blame a mother for defending a guilty child against an accuser. That's just human nature.
 
Trakar said:
I'm not too worried about national polls this far out from any actual national voting. If these numbers are showing up next spring you might have something to crow about, depending upon what you think an HRC national candidacy portends. I'm more concerned currently about what the early primary states look like, most people won't start seriously considering politics until the early primaries begin.
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If we go back through your posts on the Bullish for Bernie thread will we find you've been crowing about Sanders' showing in the polls?
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
On another note, it's interesting how Bill has become a campaign asset for Hillary while GW remains a serious liability for Jeb!.
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Skeptic Ginger said:
That's not exactly fair.

You can't blame a wife for believing a philandering husband isn't one just like you can't blame a mother for defending a guilty child against an accuser. That's just human nature.
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:D What an asset! You have aright to be believed, except when it is Bill.

These two posts were actually back to back by the author!!!

Fantastic. Stand by your Man!
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
"Quail at the thought?" What does that mean? I think Hillary's days of feeling the need to make up for not having a penis by being a bigger hawk are well behind her.


On another note, it's interesting how Bill has become a campaign asset for Hillary while GW remains a serious liability for Jeb!.
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Shudder, recoil, feel fear, miss irony?
 
Trakar said:
I'm not too worried about national polls this far out from any actual national voting. If these numbers are showing up next spring you might have something to crow about, depending upon what you think an HRC national candidacy portends. I'm more concerned currently about what the early primary states look like, most people won't start seriously considering politics until the early primaries begin.
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Weren't you talking about Clinton losing points in the polls earlier?

Yep, can't link on Tapatalk, but I found it.* Odd, how the polls don't matter when Clinton is increasing her substantial lead over the closest rival, but they are something to point out when her substantial lead over Sanders gets smaller.


*eta: at post 1115
 
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