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Ed Selecting the next Speaker of the House

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The probable next House Speaker Kevin McCarthy is off to a great start.

Seems he made a Kinsley gaffe:

A Kinsley gaffe occurs when a political gaffe reveals some truth that a politician did not intend to admit.[7][8] The term comes from journalist Michael Kinsley, who said, "A gaffe is when a politician tells the truth – some obvious truth he isn't supposed to say."[9][10]
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Now he is "clarifying" his remarks:

Kevin McCarthy clarifies Benghazi comments

Washington (CNN)Kevin McCarthy, the leading candidate to succeed John Boehner as House speaker, tried to walk back on Thursday controversial comments he made about a congressional investigation into the 2012 Benghazi terror attack.

Earlier this week, McCarthy had praised a House select committee's work for its effect on weakening Hillary Clinton's poll numbers during her presidential campaign. On Thursday, McCarthy, the current House majority leader, said on Fox News that he had unintentionally misstated his position.

"This committee was set up for one sole purpose, to find the truth on behalf of families for four dead Americans," McCarthy told Bret Baier. "Now, I did not imply in any way that that work is political, of course it is not. Look at the way they have carried themselves out."

He added: "That committee is solely to get the truth out, but it happened within the truth you found out about a server," a reference to the private email server Clinton has admitted she maintained while secretary of state. "This committee's sole purpose is to find the truth why four Americans were killed that night, and that is the work they have done, that is the hearings they have done, they have been applauded on all sides of the aisle, so it was never my intention to say that."
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House Republicans have sharply repudiated McCarthy's comments that suggested the House select committee investigating Benghazi had succeeded by tarnishing Clinton, saying it undermined their party's messaging on a key issue and raised questions about his ability to be the GOP's top communicator.
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:roll:
 
He's got some serious problems speaking, or even reading. "GOP's top communicator" is not the best job for this guy.

http://www.towleroad.com/2015/10/rachel-maddow-kevin-mccarthy/

Just one of many examples of McCarthy speak:
“It had to be hundreds of thousands of grandchildren to make that decision. We don’t have the same as difficult decision but this White House is managing the decline in putting us in tough decisions for the future.”
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It's not like the common stupidity one finds in some of the deliberate ignorance of the troglodytes in the GOP, it's more of a type of functional problem like dyslexia.
 
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House Republicans have sharply repudiated McCarthy's comments that suggested the House select committee investigating Benghazi had succeeded by tarnishing Clinton, saying it undermined their party's messaging on a key issue and raised questions about his ability to be the GOP's top communicator.

It is interesting that even this repudiation of McCathy's honest statements doesn't actually accuse him of lying or speaking an untruth, but that he spoke so as to undermine the intended message (i.e. the problem was that he didn't lie).
 
It must really suck to be a republican. If the split between the sane and insane republicans doesn't destroy the party, it will weaken it for the next 1,000 years.:rolleyes:

McCarthy speaking now.
 
Giordano said:
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House Republicans have sharply repudiated McCarthy's comments that suggested the House select committee investigating Benghazi had succeeded by tarnishing Clinton, saying it undermined their party's messaging on a key issue and raised questions about his ability to be the GOP's top communicator.
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Umm, that "quote" appears to a "quote" from an article and not from a House Republican. You might want to clean that up.

I say good riddance to Mumblemouth McCarthy
 
16.5 said:
Umm, that "quote" appears to a "quote" from an article and not from a House Republican. You might want to clean that up.

I say good riddance to Mumblemouth McCarthy
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The article does say "unnamed House Republicans".

As I've said before, McCarthy broke the first rule of Partisan Smear Campaign, which is that you don't talk about Partisan Smear Campaign. And Giordano is right; the unnamed House Republicans didn't say that McCarthy lied or misspoke, but that he undermined the GOP's message. That was his sin in their eyes. You can lie or misspeak all you want as long as your lies and misstatements are consistent with party orthodoxy.
 
jhunter1163 said:
The article does say "unnamed House Republicans".

As I've said before, McCarthy broke the first rule of Partisan Smear Campaign, which is that you don't talk about Partisan Smear Campaign. And Giordano is right; the unnamed House Republicans didn't say that McCarthy lied or misspoke, but that he undermined the GOP's message. That was his sin in their eyes. You can lie or misspeak all you want as long as your lies and misstatements are consistent with party orthodoxy.
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Ahem, "saying it undermined their party's messaging on a key issue" is not a quote from an unnamed Republican, it is a quote from the author of the source article. Claiming otherwise is purposefully misleading.

eta: The article in question appears to be a 10/1 article from CNN, the quoted section is not a quote from any Republican, the phrase "unnamed House Republicans" does nor appear in the article, and the actual quotes from Republicans absolutely lambast McCarthy because what he said was clearly wrong.

i'm starting to see why the partisan smear campaign did not bother to link the actual article....
 
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Now talk of a "caretaker" speaker, even talk of Boehner delaying his deaparture until early next year.
GOP in the house is in total chaos. The Democrats should just keep quiet about it;when your enemy is in the process of destroying himself,don't interfere to try to hasten the process;it might wake him up to what he is doing.
 
McCarthy, like Boehner, doesn't want to be stuckin the Speaker's chair when the Tea Party finally refuses to vote for any compromise on any issue of any sort. I'm starting to strongly suspect that the House will pass absolutely no legislation ever again. They couldn't agree on a lunch order, let alone a law.
 
crescent said:
Has anyone yet taken bets on how long the next shutdown (probably starting Dec. 11) will be? My guess is that it just got more likely to occur and be longer.
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The bigger issue is the debt limit; that has to be done by Nov. 5 or the US will default on its obligations. If that happens, after the 2016 elections the Republicans will probably not be allowed near the levers of power again for a very long time.
 
jhunter1163 said:
The bigger issue is the debt limit; that has to be done by Nov. 5 or the US will default on its obligations. If that happens, after the 2016 elections the Republicans will probably not be allowed near the levers of power again for a very long time.
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There is apparently a couple of weeks of wriggle room on the Debt Ceiling but agreed if the US defaults because of Tea Party instraginence it would be a disaster for the US, but for the GOP in particular.
Guaranteed, a lot of the corporate donors ..who do not want a default....are cursing the day they funded the Tea Party types.
 
And right on cue, Donald Trump starts to take credit for McCarthy dropping out.
 
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There is apparently a couple of weeks of wriggle room on the Debt Ceiling but agreed if the US defaults because of Tea Party instraginence it would be a disaster for the US, but for the GOP in particular.
Guaranteed, a lot of the corporate donors ..who do not want a default....are cursing the day they funded the Tea Party types.
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I'm not sure there is any more wriggle room; the US actually hit the debt limit in March but, because tax collections are obviously much higher in the spring, the Treasury was able to use "extraordinary measures" to shift money around and delay the drop-dead date. Lew seemed pretty adamant that Nov. 5 was it.
 
Loss Leader said:
McCarthy, like Boehner, doesn't want to be stuckin the Speaker's chair when the Tea Party finally refuses to vote for any compromise on any issue of any sort. I'm starting to strongly suspect that the House will pass absolutely no legislation ever again. They couldn't agree on a lunch order, let alone a law.
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Eventually some of them would bite the bullet and work with democratic members.
 
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