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Continuation Part 18: Amanda Knox/Raffaele Sollecito

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Vixen said:
TruthCalls was referring to burglaries where there was an occupant at home.

Rudy was seen hanging around the cottage about eight pm, he went away as no-one was home, to the kebab house. He waited for Amanda. This contradicts the claim Rudy broke in when no-one was home or he could have burgled undisturbed when he was there much earlier.
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The report TC referred us to included those burglaries in which people returned during the event. You should read it.

He could have burgled at 6 pm and had 3 hours, so what?
 
acbytesla said:
I'm not sure how you can say it was an "illegal" acquittal. I certainly am not an expert in Italian law. Are you? It's one thing to say that you are baffled by the decision, but you are arguing that something was illegal with no basis at all to come to that conclusion.
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There is no case precedent. Bruno & Marasca do not have the power to change the law. They did not consult with united chambers before setting legal precedent, as they are legally obliged to.
 
Grinder said:
So what? They didn't need anything from the 18th to convict him, which was the point.
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They do. If they dispute the facts or the evidence, they need to offer a reason. If as they claim Raff's DNA was "certainly possibly due to contamination" then they have to be legally consistent (the professional duty to objectivity). As handomely paid judges, they cannot just shrug and say, what applies to Raff's DNA doesn't apply to Rudy's.

This shows prejudice.
 
Vixen said:
It was Raff's shoe. It was a size 42, not Rudy's size 45. It had the same star defect on the heel. Raff's own advocate said the blood smeared print was "too indistinguishable" to be attributed to Raff. (So, ipso facto impossible to attribute to anyone.)
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No.

Vixen said:
Massei bent over backwards for Raff when he accepted Papa Raff's desperate pleas it must be Rudy's. No doubt he was worried he might cross paths with the Urologists for the Dons and wouldn't want a painful penile experience.
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Hardly desperate, it was simply pointed out that the crack forensic team cocked up again. All they needed to prove whose shoes made the prints was someone who could count.

Vixen said:
Raff spent a lot of time explaining things away, eh? He explained away why Mez' DNA should be on the knife. BTW they didn't need to dismantle the handle, as the knife was only plunged part way in.
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How would you know, the knife has never been found.

Vixen said:
He's had to explain away the need for a mop, why he dismantled his U-bend to clean out the detritus, the two jumbo-sized brand new bottles of ACE bleach, when he ordered his cleaners never to use bleach, why he said he spoke to his papa 23:00, when he didn't, why he said Amanda was with him, and then not, why heavy metal was blasting out at 5:30 when they claimed to sleep until ten, why he tried to escape to the USA, why he was caught at the Austrian border, and never once does the self-satisfied smirk leave his lips; the preclusions are never-ending.

Indeed, we are meant to admire this "honourable" gentleman.
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We know why he was caught on the Austrian border. This honourable gentleman had returned to Italy himself. He wasn't caught heading the other way. He came back and succeeded in clearing his name. All the so called evidence you keep repeating has been proved to be BS and this is why he is innocent and free to get on with his life.
 
Vixen said:
So why didn't Rudy break in when he knew no-one was home?
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What makes you think he didn't? The overwhelmingly popular speculation is that Rudy was inside the cottage before Meredith entered.
 
Vixen said:
In the new Afterword in WTBH Amanda claims Velladova (sp?) assured her she was found completely innocent and exonerated, and in her dishonesty, she continues this deliberately false representation to her readers.


This demonstrates Amanda lies readily, and not only that, she is aware she does.
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It demonstrates Dalla Vedova lies, if anybody at all (which I doubt). Not Mensa level.
 
Vixen said:
There is no case precedent. Bruno & Marasca do not have the power to change the law. They did not consult with united chambers before setting legal precedent, as they are legally obliged to.
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Do you have a non-PGP cite for this claim? Has the first section of the ISC made a complaint?
 
Vixen said:
They do. If they dispute the facts or the evidence, they need to offer a reason. If as they claim Raff's DNA was "certainly possibly due to contamination" then they have to be legally consistent (the professional duty to objectivity). As handomely paid judges, they cannot just shrug and say, what applies to Raff's DNA doesn't apply to Rudy's.

This shows prejudice.
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Were they reviewing Rudi's case? No.

Remove the DNA from the 18th for everyone and Rudi was still there, left DNA, left palm prints, and shoe prints.
 
Vixen said:
They do. If they dispute the facts or the evidence, they need to offer a reason. If as they claim Raff's DNA was "certainly possibly due to contamination" then they have to be legally consistent (the professional duty to objectivity). As handomely paid judges, they cannot just shrug and say, what applies to Raff's DNA doesn't apply to Rudy's. This shows prejudice.
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Why not, this was Amanda and Raff's trial, not Guede's.

If Guede wanted to contest the findings of his DNA perhaps he should have gone for a full trial instead of going for the fast track option.

If we discount the DNA that was found 46 days later, what evidence is left incriminating Raff and what is left incriminating Guede?
 
Vixen said:
The cctv does not show that. It shows Rudy entering after either Amanda or Mez, who, as Rudy said in his statement, let him in "with her key".
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Actually it doesn't. It shows none of that. Truth is wrong too. It appears to show Rudy near the house before Meredith and that is all.

There certainly are no cctv images of either Amanda or Raffaele anywhere between his apartment and the cottage that evening.
 
anglolawyer said:
It demonstrates Dalla Vedova lies, if anybody at all (which I doubt). Not Mensa level.
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Those lawyers

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"A cat killer? Is that the face of a cat killer?
Cat chaser maybe... but hey, who isn't?"
 
Grinder said:
Were they reviewing Rudi's case? No.

Remove the DNA from the 18th for everyone and Rudi was still there, left DNA, left palm prints, and shoe prints.
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You are still wrong. Italian judges are obliged to recreate the scenario. Bruno-Marasca having rubbished Nencini's and Massei's are legally bound to set up another one.

If they disputed a material point of fact, they were obliged to send it back to a fact-finding court.
 
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