Football ref attacked on field

[William Parcher]

It happened again in Texas. The filmed action is at 0:42.

Zeke Cardenas, St. Anthony High School Football Player, Hits Referee on Video

For the second time in little more than a week, a high school football player in Texas was ejected from a game for making contact with a referee.

 

[Skeptical Greg]

It happened again in Texas. The filmed action is at 0:42.

What amounts to a shove, probably happens more often than you think..

It's only news now, because of the more violent incident seen in the OP...

 

[steve s]

It happened again in Texas. The filmed action is at 0:42.

It's a Catholic school, proving that prayer in school doesn't make for better-behaved kids.

Given the publicity of the recent incident, you'd think players would be a bit more aware of contacting referees.

Steve S

 

[Meadmaker]

It's a Catholic school, proving that prayer in school doesn't make for better-behaved kids.

Given the publicity of the recent incident, you'd think players would be a bit more aware of contacting referees.

Steve S

The announcers were, but asking a 17 year old to be aware of darned near anything is being a bit optimistic.

 

[Corsair 115]

It happened again in Texas. The filmed action is at 0:42.

That's not really the same thing as the incident in the opening post.

 

[fuelair]

It's a Catholic school, proving that prayer in school doesn't make for better-behaved kids.

Given the publicity of the recent incident, you'd think players would be a bit more aware of contacting referees.

Steve S

And don't forget, many of the lads are getting special attention from the priests!!!

 

[Skeptical Greg]

That's not really the same thing as the incident in the opening post.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10872454&postcount=62

 

[C_Felix]

I have definitely had parents tell me (and my supervisor and league president and anyone who might listen) that I have "cheated their kids", that their kids were being scouted (at 12 years old), that to make [whatever ruling I made] would hurt their career, I stole their chances to go to playoffs, etc. I don't think it is uncommon, but I could not guess at what percentage of those that hold those views cross the line to violence. As a matter of personal opinion, anyone whose mental process justifies screaming abuse, obscene or not, at officials is closer to violence line than others.

Tell 'em to sue you.

 

[CriticalThanking]

Tell 'em to sue you.

I've been threatened with that as well. Would I win? Probably. Could I afford to fight it? Who knows? I can purchase supplemental forms of insurance through various officials organizations.

As for liability on participant injury, I do have to be very careful. Little League Inc will back up a local league if they followed national guidelines (or stricter). Example: if an adult is injured while warming up a pitcher and sues the league/umpire, the amount of support a defendant will get in a lawsuit will depend upon whether or not they tried to enforce the rulea/policies. Let things slide? Say goodbye to legal support from the top. This is a real world example.

 

[Ranb]

http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/0...o/playlists/athletes-in-trouble-with-the-law/
Seems as though these two players are feeling a bit lonely; so lonely they're dragging a teammate and a coach under the bus with them.

They're still acting like misunderstood victims as if anything would be a reasonable explanation for what they did on the field.

Ranb

 

[Ladewig]

http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/0...o/playlists/athletes-in-trouble-with-the-law/
Seems as though these two players are feeling a bit lonely; so lonely they're dragging a teammate and a coach under the bus with them.

To be a little more clear about it, they assert that the coach told them to do it.

 

[Meadmaker]

http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/0...o/playlists/athletes-in-trouble-with-the-law/
Seems as though these two players are feeling a bit lonely; so lonely they're dragging a teammate and a coach under the bus with them.

They're still acting like misunderstood victims as if anything would be a reasonable explanation for what they did on the field.

Ranb

If their story is true, then I would say they sort of are.

Verifying the story could be a bit problematic, though. They do say that they have one independent witness, which could help.

If a coach told them to do something, and they did it, I would blame the coach more than the kids.

There are no doubt a lot of people who are asking a lot of questions at the local level, and also there's no doubt that the people involved all have pre-existing reputations that might make one story or another more credible.

 

[William Parcher]

Texas coach accused of ordering players to hit referee resigns

Mack Breed, the assistant coach from John Jay High School in San Antonio, Texas, who is accused of directing two players to tackle a referee during a game, has resigned, Northside Independent School District Superintendent Brian Woods said Thursday. Head football coach Gary Gutierrez spoke during the University Interscholastic League hearing, both defending Breed and deriding his "poor judgment call."

"I love coach Breed. He was on staff already when I became head coach. He is an upstanding man, he is a man of integrity," Gutierrez said, but "he violated the sanctity of what coaches are" by telling the players to hit the referee.

Breed joined the coaching staff in 2010. He played quarterback at John Jay before attending the University of Missouri, where he played safety. He has not publicly provided his side of the story. ESPN reported Wednesday that it had "evidence" that Breed told school principal Robert Harris that he "directed the students to make the referee pay" for alleged racial comments and calls Breed disagreed with...