Hillary Clinton is Done

[Skeptic Ginger]

... Republicans have still been using the tactic of repeating a lie long enough and loud enough so that people believe it? Must be a day ending in a 'Y'.

For whatever reason, people who believe the slogans pounded into their heads don't realize how they got there.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

I think the last few election cycles have shown us that, despite the Palins and Herman Cains not winning, they are considered serious candidates at some point of the process, which is itself very worrying.

Seeing GW's latest appearances telling New Orleans how resilient they are so drives that point home.

 

[Belz...]

Dole, McCain. Romney and now the establishments favorite J Bush.

Dole isn't very recent. I wouldn't call the others moderate except _maybe_ Jeb. Even if I did give you all of them, it would be a minority.

 

[Belz...]

Lol
I'm sure you haven't noticed her poll numbers, could it possibly be those "grievances"?

I don't know. Do you?

 

[Cleon]

Dole, McCain. Romney and now the establishments favorite J Bush.

Hrm. 1996, 2008, and 2012....You seemed to have missed an election or two. I wonder why?

 

[logger]

Hrm. 1996, 2008, and 2012....You seemed to have missed an election or two. I wonder why?

Because I wouldn't consider W's politics to be that of the other three. He's farther to the right than Dole, McCain, Romney, and won.

 

[logger]

I don't know. Do you?

Yes

 

[Belz...]

Yes

Isn't that a lie? How could you possibly know?

 

[logger]

Isn't that a lie? How could you possibly know?

First I don't lie, second it is an opinion based on common sense.

Why do you think her poll numbers have gone down? I'm not asking for you to prove anything, what is your opinion of why they've gone down?

 

[thaiboxerken]

First I don't lie, second it is an opinion based on common sense.

Why do you think her poll numbers have gone down? I'm not asking for you to prove anything, what is your opinion of why they've gone down?

So you don't know. This means you lied.

 

[Fudbucker]

So you don't know. This means you lied.

No, it's not a lie. If the email scandal is being lumped in as a "Republican Grievance" (as Belz did), then yes, it's a big reason why her numbers are terrible lately.

ETA: Clinton's lead down to 7 points ahead of Sanders in Iowa. First time Hillary is below 50% in Iowa.

 

[logger]

So you don't know. This means you lied.

Her poll numbers are way down, is that not obvious to you?

As a skeptic, do you need some type of study to show you that?

 

[logger]

No, it's not a lie. If the email scandal is being lumped in as a "Republican Grievance" (as Belz did), then yes, it's a big reason why her numbers are terrible lately.

Yes

My point to Belz was, it seems those Republican grievances have become Democrat grievances.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Gee, Clinton isn't as far ahead as she was. Bernie might win a couple delegates, Biden might enter the race.

Where does anyone read Clinton is 'done' in that summary?

 

[logger]

^
At least there's one sticking up for her.

 

[Fudbucker]

"On virtually every question related to her e-mail server, independents -- long considered the crucial swing vote in a close presidential election -- are closer to Republican views than Democratic ones."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...out-the-2016-democratic-presidential-primary/

 

[thaiboxerken]

Her poll numbers are way down, is that not obvious to you?

As a skeptic, do you need some type of study to show you that?

First, you said that you knew it as so, then you said it is just an opinion. To state an opinion as fact is a lie.

 

[logger]

First, you said that you knew it as so, then you said it is just an opinion. To state an opinion as fact is a lie.

Really? I didn't know that.

 

[Fudbucker]

First, you said that you knew it as so, then you said it is just an opinion. To state an opinion as fact is a lie.

Let me know when we get to what "is" is. What Logger said (as opinion or fact, I could care less) was true: the email scandal has hurt Clinton badly, and even party faithful are admitting it.

"They’ve handled the email issue poorly, maybe atrociously, certainly horribly,” said Edward G. Rendell, a former governor of Pennsylvania and a supporter of Mrs. Clinton’s candidacy. “The campaign has been incredibly tone-deaf, not seeing this as a more serious issue. She should have turned over the email server at the start, because they should have known they’d be forced to give it up. But at this point, there’s nothing they can do to kill the issue — they’re left just playing defense.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/28/u...mail-issue-frustrates-democratic-leaders.html

 

[Dog Town]

As one who is not tied to either of the parties. Not a fan of either!
It is entertaining to see the rabid Hillary fanboys, and girls, freak!
Now it's argue minutia, or semantics, for them! None of which make them look any less rabid! She is toast! As well she should be! I'm pulling for Bernie. Long ways to go!