Continuation Part 17: Amanda Knox/Raffaele Sollecito

[toto]

She also mentions the washing machine when they went back a couple days later to look at the knives, and also when she was asked again about the clothes and who they belonged to. She doesn't say anything about the washing machine being warm.

So do you even bother to read what you list as a cite?

That's what I read too.

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[Mr Fied]

Did you never think it odd that police identified the footprints in Mez' room as ladies size 37 and men's size 42, yet Guede took size 45?

They couldn't even count the rings on a sole.

Let me guess, Amanda is a size 37 and Raff a 42?

So they just happened to identify these size shoeprints and forgot to show the evidence. Good police work.

I doubt they could identify themselves in a mirror.

 

[Vixen]

She also mentions the washing machine when they went back a couple days later to look at the knives, and also when she was asked again about the clothes and who they belonged to. She doesn't say anything about the washing machine being warm.

So do you even bother to read what you list as a cite?

Either your version has been only partly translated or it has been omitted.

It wouldn't be the first time inconvenient facts are glossed over by PR shills.

Who do I believe, a neutral GUARDIAN hack or persons with an innocence agenda?

 

[Vixen]

They couldn't even count the rings on a sole.

Let me guess, Amanda is a size 37 and Raff a 42?

So they just happened to identify these size shoeprints and forgot to show the evidence. Good police work.

I doubt they could identify themselves in a mirror.

Obviously the size 37 shoe was thrown away, together with Mez' door key.

So, what happened to the bag Amanda and Raff said she took round for clothes?

Who do I believe, the scientific police or some sozzled old judge bending over backwards for Papa Raff?

 

[Numbers]

I also heard Filomena had to cut Amanda's food for her into small bite sized pieces like a child. This is why there were two hesitation stab wounds in Meredith before the final slash as Amanda was learning to use a knife for the first time that night.

bagels,

Thanks for this explanation! It clarifies so much!

 

[Bill Williams]

Either your version has been only partly translated or it has been omitted.

It wouldn't be the first time inconvenient facts are glossed over by PR shills.

Who do I believe, a neutral GUARDIAN hack or persons with an innocence agenda?

You **should** believe the trial transcripts, rather than engaging in this sophistry. If you can find them in trial transcripts then post them.

That you engage in ad hominem instead is all I need to hear. You also don't even read what you post as a cite..... sheesh.

 

[Vixen]

No, that's false. The testimony indicates she did use the washing machine. The police testimony I quoted previously indicates they didn't even notice the washing machine when they arrived.

Police found a six-week pile of dirty clothes against Amanda's bedroom wall.

Amanda appears to have been a stranger to soap and water.

 

[Mr Fied]

Obviously the size 37 shoe was thrown away, together with Mez' door key.

So, what happened to the bag Amanda and Raff said she took round for clothes?

Who do I believe, the scientific police or some sozzled old judge bending over backwards for Papa Raff?

Would this be the same scientific police who lost all these hairs we keep hearing about.

Or the ones who lost Raff's fingerprint in blood that was in Meredith's room.

Or the same ones who can't count rings on a shoe sole.

Or the ones who forgot to test a possible semen stain in a rape/murder case.

Or the ones who forgot to collect evidence such as parts of the victims underwear or her blood stained clothes.

Or the ones who don't know how to correctly swab trace evidence.

Or the ones who wrap evidence in wrapping paper.

Or the ones who, when finally collecting evidence, take videos of themselves passing evidence from one person to another, replacing it on the floor, touching it with dirty gloves and then claiming it couldn't have been contaminated.

 

[Methos]

Either your version has been only partly translated or it has been omitted.

It wouldn't be the first time inconvenient facts are glossed over by PR shills.

Who do I believe, a neutral GUARDIAN hack or persons with an innocence agenda?

Try to find the "warm washing machine" in the google translation of your cite.
Maybe the team of TheMurderofMeredithKercher.com made a mistake transcribing the testimony?

 

[Vixen]

Yes, that's the one to which I was referring. I can't see the word "warm" with regard to the washing machine. Can you be more precise?

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It's in Filomena's witness statement, which I dare say the hacks had a copy of when they came to translate her testimony.

Just because you're not up to speed on this, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

 

[Kauffer]

Either your version has been only partly translated or it has been omitted.

It wouldn't be the first time inconvenient facts are glossed over by PR shills.

Who do I believe, a neutral GUARDIAN hack or persons with an innocence agenda?

This is a ridiculous post. All of the evidence is available for you to consult. Find the claims you say are there! Point them out! Or agree they aren't there.

What kind of person believes something to be true when there is no evidence for it?

False claim after false claim and nonsense in conclusion.

 

[Methos]

Police found a six-week pile of dirty clothes against Amanda's bedroom wall.
Amanda appears to have been a stranger to soap and water.

Where is this "six-week pile of dirty clothes against Amanda's bedroom wall" in the following crimescene photographs?

 

[toto]

Either your version has been only partly translated or it has been omitted.

It wouldn't be the first time inconvenient facts are glossed over by PR shills.

Who do I believe, a neutral GUARDIAN hack or persons with an innocence agenda?

The version to which you are referring here is the one to which I was also referring which is the version (as translated into English by computer software from the Italian) which you advised me to peruse. So the primary source does not back up your assertion.

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[Kauffer]

It's in Filomena's witness statement, which I dare say the hacks had a copy of when they came to translate her testimony.

Just because you're not up to speed on this, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Provide the citation!! How are we supposed to prove a negative?

 

[toto]

It's in Filomena's witness statement, which I dare say the hacks had a copy of when they came to translate her testimony.

Just because you're not up to speed on this, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Well it wasn't in the link you provided me (the contents of which I had already read). So in the trial the warmth of the washing machine was not mentioned.

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[Vixen]

Would this be the same scientific police who lost all these hairs we keep hearing about.

Or the ones who lost Raff's fingerprint in blood that was in Meredith's room.

Or the same ones who can't count rings on a shoe sole.

Or the ones who forgot to test a possible semen stain in a rape/murder case.

Or the ones who forgot to collect evidence such as parts of the victims underwear or her blood stained clothes.

Or the ones who don't know how to correctly swab trace evidence.

Or the ones who wrap evidence in wrapping paper.

Or the ones who, when finally collecting evidence, take videos of themselves passing evidence from one person to another, replacing it on the floor, touching it with dirty gloves and then claiming it couldn't have been contaminated.

Massive logical fallacy. Even if we were to imagine very hard that any of these "errors" are even slightly true, it doesn't make a guilty person innocent.

Hindsight is a fine thing. Well done the perps delaying the police from finding the body and their not being prepared when they did.

 

[Vixen]

The version to which you are referring here is the one to which I was also referring which is the version (as translated into English by computer software from the Italian) which you advised me to peruse. So the primary source does not back up your assertion.

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Reporters from both the highly respected GUARDIAN and OBSERVER reported this is what came out at trial. Filomena came home and the washing machine was "still warm".

 

[toto]

Reporters from both the highly respected GUARDIAN and OBSERVER reported this is what came out at trial. Filomena came home and the washing machine was "still warm".

But you didn't provide me with the correct link. You will acknowledge this point?

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[Methos]

But you didn't provide me with the correct link. You will acknowledge this point?

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You might want to check this one just to be sure

 

[Mr Fied]

Massive logical fallacy. Even if we were to imagine very hard that any of these "errors" are even slightly true, it doesn't make a guilty person innocent.

Hindsight is a fine thing. Well done the perps delaying the police from finding the body and their not being prepared when they did.

We don't have to imagine. Have you seen the crime scene videos of the evidence collection? Errors?

Choosing to ignore what is true does not make an innocent person guilty.

BTW, just picking up on something else you have made up. How many people actually own a whole six weeks worth of clothes. And if Amanda had never used the washing machine, how did she know how to turn it on?