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I dug up one of these A&E lectures-for lack of anything else to call it-in archives.org.

The first thing that struck me was all these guys standing up at a podium always look like they are in the middle of a skull busting-vice gripper of a hangover. Clothes all wrinkled-spikes in the hair along with a swollen grey tongue.
You might expect a Dollar General suit and tie but these guys take it to the limit. I swear one of them had a piece of wire holding his cuff together. Is this some kind of an act? The meek and the masses?

Then to the thunderous ovation from about ten people-they never show the fake audience-the man of the hour William Pepper almost falls on his way to the lectern. The A&E banner is crooked as he mumbles his way through a fifty minute garble of nothingness.

He stumbles from conspiracy to conspiracy-without any mention of explanation or, heaven forbid evidence. He gets the shakes as he struggles to say "and we all know George Bush shot down EWA -excuse me- TWA 800 in order to enrich his fellow---you know it's coming-you have been waiting-now here it is THE JEWS!!!!!!!!!

So this is Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth.
 
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He stumbles from conspiracy to conspiracy-without any mention of explanation or, heaven forbid evidence. He gets the shakes as he struggles to say "and we all know George Bush shot down EWA -excuse me- TWA 800 in order to enrich his fellow---you know it's coming-you have been waiting-now here it is THE JEWS!!!!!!!!!
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Can you post a link to this, please?
 
Georgio said:
Can you post a link to this, please?
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Post a link to show William Pepper is a paranoid nut on 911 and most other issues? lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=126Nb6ArLG4
At 15:24, William Pepper, with no evidence, claims OKC and the first WTC bombing were false flags. Why do nuts in 911 truth make delusional claims. Does it fool the failed followers, too lazy to think for themselves.

911 truth's experts talk and thus expose overwhelming evidence, they are nuts; William Pepper has no evidence to support any 911 truth claims - never will.
 
KDLarsen said:
It's this one I guess? https://archive.org/details/William_Pepper
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https://archive.org/details/William_Pepper

William Pepper, stuck repeating failed tag-lines from a movement based on massive ignorance and BS.

43:13, He claims the steel was removed quickly; 8 months is quickly, and of course he ignores the fact the WTC complex crime was done with two aircraft piloted by terrorists; thus the evidence of the crime was not removed, it is a fact born in FAA records of who boarded the planes, and their motive to kill Americans. I have not seen a dumber movement, where idiots like Pepper spew BS and the fringe few paranoid conspracy theories eat it up like it is the truth.

Quickly in 911 truth, is 8 months...

Oh did he say the steel was not studied, or examined? Or just quickly removed...
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Oops, William was wrong, the steel was not removed quickly enough to escape examination. Why are 911 truth "experts" big liars? Mindlessly repeating failed taglines and nonsense from a movement based on paranoia and lies.
I imagine the audience is doing this to save us all from the people they can't name who did 911, as 911 truth ignores the evidence 19 murderers did 911.
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A movement of action, and money for a fringe few like Gage. Action = spreading lies, doing nothing, in 911 truth movement of lies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXgPnaQKcyw&t=43m13s

What is the definition of quickly for 911 truth followers? 13 years of failure, the 14th year of nonsense.
 
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What continues to interest me is the fact that the truth movement's followers don't seem to inform themselves of the vast amount of information which "debunks" all the memes that the truth leaders are standing on.. And even these leaders seem to remain inside a bubble of isolation from the facts choosing to connect dots they think are there. Tony Sz seemed to be one of the very few who would engage those on the other side as opposed to preach to the converted. But despite his ideas and thinking about technical issues being shown incorrect... he never gives ground or retracts and just disappears.

We really are witnessing a lack of critical thinking... a sort of mass denial and a failure to engage in honest debate and "learning" by those who have gravitated to the truth side because of poor technical understanding and are way to willing to accept nonsense for facts from people they believe to be "experts" who are in fact, misinformed.

Many of these people are intelligent but deny reality because of their overriding distrust of the government, media and officials. This is what is truly interesting. To the truth movement, terrorism is a totally synthetic creation by some powerful cabal used as a ruse to amass more wealth power and control of the people and the world. This cabal managed to pull off without even a single rehearsal an event of such complexity it is hard to even imagine what the plan looked like. Of course this denies the notion of insurrection, rebellion and so forth which even led to the founding of this nation and has been a part of history since there was consolidation of power in any government.

How ironic the truth movement is on about the psychological resistance of the population to the "truth" when they seemed to have a huge problem with intellectual honesty and critical thinking.
 
I found this by string searching at the Archives. Actually I found it within a kitchen upgrade section as the word 'pepper' must have caught it.

I have found out that there is a similar video somewhere on YouTube-which I know nothing about.

I was under the impression all of you had scene it. It seems now that this was a second 'take' of the video and from a different camera-or something.

It is disgusting and grotesque I never want to see it again.

I did keep up with how many times dude took off his glasses and put them back on-17 times in one minute.

I found an old body language text book and it said about taking on and off eyeglasses "it usually means they're bored and have already dismissed the conversation"

Now that fits.
 
spooky24 said:
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I was under the impression all of you had scene it. It seems now that this was a second 'take' of the video and from a different camera-or something.

It is disgusting and grotesque I never want to see it again.
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Nope, I have not seen it, and would be much interested in you showing proof for the claims you make. Especially the allegation that Pepper blames something on "the Jews".

Perhaps you find it in your browser's history?
 
Georgio said:
Thanks, but no it's not that speech. I just watched it and he never says what spooky24 posted.
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Which video? Pepper said OKC and the First WTC bombing were false flags; lies he plagiarized without evidence from paranoid nuts.

William Pepper is a no evidence repeater of BS.

44:53 - he makes up a conspracy of NORAD and the FAA, which is more BS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXgPnaQKcyw&t=44m53s
The dolt has no clue what NORAD is, or what FAA procedures are.

I think you are confused by what spooky24 wrote, between what Pepper said, and what spooky24 said he expected to come streaming out of Peppers BS filled mind. As usual, William Pepper can't say who did 911 backed with evidence.

Are you on the fence about OKC and the first WTC bombing? Bigfoot? lol
 
spooky24 said:
I did keep up with how many times dude took off his glasses and put them back on-17 times in one minute.

I found an old body language text book and it said about taking on and off eyeglasses "it usually means they're bored and have already dismissed the conversation"
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beachnut - Noise, noise, noise, as usual. Don't forget to write the exact same post again in response to this one but using the word 'noise' a lot because I used it.

Oystein said:
Nope, I have not seen it, and would be much interested in you showing proof for the claims you make. Especially the allegation that Pepper blames something on "the Jews".

Perhaps you find it in your browser's history?
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spooky24 - If what you say is true then I completely understand why you wouldn't want to watch the video again but you don't have to, just find it and post a link. But you must surely understand that since you are saying that this person made anti-semitic remarks, which is a very serious accusation, then the onus is on you to provide evidence for your claim or retract the accusation. Thanks in advance.
 
Georgio said:
beachnut - Noise, noise, noise, as usual. Don't forget to write the exact same post again in response to this one but using the word 'noise' a lot because I used it.


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spooky24 - If what you say is true then I completely understand why you wouldn't want to watch the video again but you don't have to, just find it and post a link. But you must surely understand that since you are saying that this person made anti-semitic remarks, which is a very serious accusation, then the onus is on you to provide evidence for your claim or retract the accusation. Thanks in advance.
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http://911blogger.com/topics/william-pepper

Scroll down to the NYCANT article....took me less than a minute for this tid bit
 
Mr.Herbert said:
http://911blogger.com/topics/william-pepper

Scroll down to the NYCANT article....took me less than a minute for this tid bit
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Do you mean this one - http://911blogger.com/news/2009-04-20/william-pepper-writes-support-nyc-can

If so, I just skim read it and can't see anything pertaining to this exchange. I'm trying to find the video that spooky24 quotes where Pepper (allegedly at this stage, although I've no reason to doubt that spooky24 is telling the truth) says,

"and we all know George Bush shot down EWA -excuse me- TWA 800 in order to enrich his fellow---you know it's coming-you have been waiting-now here it is THE JEWS!!!!!!!!!
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JSanderO said:
What continues to interest me is the fact that the truth movement's followers don't seem to inform themselves of the vast amount of information which "debunks" all the memes that the truth leaders are standing on...
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They don't care about any of that though cuz they're activists, and most definitely NOT interested in educating themselves.

The debate is over and done. The only reasonably educated people that ACTUALLY believe that 9/11 was an inside job are deluded and/or have mental issues. Poorly educated believe it cuz they lack knowledge. But I truly believe that few actually feel this way.

The vast majority don't ACTUALLY believe that 9/11 was an inside job. The vast majority are just trolls that say the most outrageous thing they can think of to attract attention to their activist cause.

But here's the rub - their cause is NOT that 9/11 was an inside job.

Their cause is their outrage at war profiteering built on the lives of young American men. And at oil grabbing built on the lives of young American men. And at the perceived loss of freedoms in America.

I truly believe that even Tony Sz doesn't believe the crap he spews. Just check his posts to see how he feels. How many times has he gone on a rant about these true issues?

That's what they care about, and like many activists, they feel like telling any lie is fine cuz their cause is just.
 
About 3/4 of the was through he mumbles about TWA 800 and the Bush administration.

The entire reason for the post was to show how-outside web sites-the movement is in a state of disarray.

Not one bit of evidence for any of the accusations is ever offered.

How the hell have most of you, that have been posting for years here, not know about any of this!! There are dozens and dozens of 9/11 media on archive.org and none of you have seen one bit of it.

What do you do night and day in this forum? You don't study 9/11 that is for sure-and anyone who does is ridiculed in mass.

There are about 8 publications-books-that must be read to even get to an intro level about that day and before and after.

None of you here have ever read a single one of them. One of them is Professor Griffin's and I know your clueless about that too.

3 are Pulitzer Prize winner's and some have sales in the 20 million range. So, the question is, why don't you want to learn anything about one of the most tragic chapters in the planets history?

Lets see:

That would require effort.
That would require you cut the umbilical to google and get a life.
That would require you to give up your hour by hour injustice collection.
And lastly:
That would require you find a real treatment for your attention starvation.

I always wondered why some of the intelligent posters in this forum-who have built up a considerable knowledge base-never post or even read the 9/11 section at all-in fact they go no where it.

Now I know.
 
spooky24 said:
There are about 8 publications-books-that must be read to even get to an intro level about that day and before and after.
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And these would be?

spooky24 said:
None of you here have ever read a single one of them. One of them is Professor Griffin's and I know your clueless about that too.

3 are Pulitzer Prize winner's and some have sales in the 20 million range. So, the question is, why don't you want to learn anything about one of the most tragic chapters in the planets history?
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I wouldn't be so sure about that.
 
spooky24 said:
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Not one bit of evidence for any of the accusations is ever offered.
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You accused William Pepper of blaming stuff on "the jews".
Not one bit of evidence for this accusation is ever offered - by you.

We asked you several times: Please offer evidence for your accusation! Link to the video in which he allegedly made statements to the effect that "the jews" are responsible for certain CT-related stuff!
 
Oh spooky, few here would be surprised in the least that Pepper blames the Jews. All that has been requested is the video you saw.

The other videos linked to above demonstrate his belief in many other conspiracies. That was not unknown to many, perhaps even most, posters here.
In fact there are thread's discussing this penchance among 9/11CTs.

As for articles and books, yeah, you are the only one here who has bothered with them. Go with that if it makes you feel good.:rolleyes:
 
jaydeehess said:
As for articles and books, yeah, you are the only one here who has bothered with them. Go with that if it makes you feel good.:rolleyes:
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Strange he(?) says this after I gave him(?) a head nod on 'Hunting in the shadows'. I am interested to see how may of the eight books he(?) says are crucial that I already have (I have more than eight).

I giggle a bit when I look on my shelf and realize I have four of Griffins 9/11 books. I got them all at a yard sale for fifty cents.(the seller had .50 each and I talked him down) :D
 
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