Continuation Part 17: Amanda Knox/Raffaele Sollecito

[acbytesla]

About the blood downstairs. Do we really think that the police would hide the results if the DNA was Rudy's. And if it matched Raffaele, you know they would have disclosed it. What if it was an unknown male? That would show multiple assailants and not the innocents. Sword they really do all of this KNOWING that it wasn't Amanda and Raffaele? That doesn't seem likely to me.

 

[Bill Williams]

This aerial photo shows that the best place for a reasonably athletic burglar (Rudy) to enter the cottage (without a key) is through Filomena's window, when compared with the deck on the other side of the light-brown-roofed extension to the light-grey roofed main building.

Note the three levels of terrain, where the space below Filomena's is completely sheltered from the road - the deck is completely exposed to the road as it curves around to the left; as well as completely exposed to the apartments high up.



Indeed, the following is the unimpeded view of the balcony:



Which when compared to the basic doability of the climb into Filomena's room, with its relative stealth seals the deal:

 

[Ken Dine]

Recent comments including the one here to which I am responding are speculating that Rudy was a rapist before this crime. This crime was a burglary gone bad. There is no indication that Rudi went there to commit a rape.

There is no evidence thar Rudi knew all four guys who resided downstairs were away that 4-day holiday weekend (Thursday - Sunday). Indeed, it is possible that none of the four knew many days in advance that all four of them would be away or on which days of the four-day period they were leaving or returning, even though three were from the same hometown and each of the the three went home.

The rock through the window is used to test for an occupant response. That suggests Rudi sought to know that the upstairs flat was empty for his break-in.

Rudi is distinctive-looking and easy to describe, even if he were to attack a stranger who had never seen him before. A victim could easily describe him by race, height and slender build, early-20's age range, and, if the victim were Italian, possibly even by accent (Rudi came to Italy when he was about 5 and although fluent in Italian may still speak Italian with a slight accent that a native-speaker of Italian may note if providing a description). It is unlikely that Rudi could have escaped notice in Perugia or even Milan if he were a repeat sexual attacker, which is taken as a dangerous crime.

I read that many sexual attacks go unreported. That may regrettably be for date-rape and also for casual first encounters where the assailant and victim met in the past hour or so and have some beginning of an acquaintance, but I am sceptical that many women are attacked and raped by strangers who jump out at them and then do not mention it or report it. Am I wrong on that? If so, please correct me.

A UK survey found:

80% of women don’t report rape or sexual assault, survey claim
[ ]

Almost of a quarter of victims had been attacked repeatedly, and two-thirds knew the person responsible.

But most of those who had been raped or sexually assaulted (83 per cent) failed to report it to police, and 29 per cent did not even tell friends or family what had happened.

Overall about half said they would be too embarrassed or ashamed of the incident to admit it but two-thirds said they would hesitate because of low conviction rates.

More than half of the 1,609 female respondents to the survey said the legal system, the media and society at large is unsympathetic to rape victims.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ort-rape-or-sexual-assault-survey-claims.html

I suspect that the violence used to subdue the female victim may be a controlling factor, and that if a woman needs medical treatment after the rape, then she may be more inclined to report it.

 

[zotz]

Recent comments including the one here to which I am responding are speculating that Rudy was a rapist before this crime. This crime was a burglary gone bad. There is no indication that Rudi went there to commit a rape.
There is no evidence thar Rudi knew all four guys who resided downstairs were away that 4-day holiday weekend (Thursday - Sunday). Indeed, it is possible that none of the four knew many days in advance that all four of them would be away or on which days of the four-day period they were leaving or returning, even though three were from the same hometown and each of the the three went home.

The rock through the window is used to test for an occupant response. That suggests Rudi sought to know that the upstairs flat was empty for his break-in.

Rudi is distinctive-looking and easy to describe, even if he were to attack a stranger who had never seen him before. A victim could easily describe him by race, height and slender build, early-20's age range, and, if the victim were Italian, possibly even by accent (Rudi came to Italy when he was about 5 and although fluent in Italian may still speak Italian with a slight accent that a native-speaker of Italian may note if providing a description). It is unlikely that Rudi could have escaped notice in Perugia or even Milan if he were a repeat sexual attacker, which is taken as a dangerous crime.

I read that many sexual attacks go unreported. That may regrettably be for date-rape and also for casual first encounters where the assailant and victim met in the past hour or so and have some beginning of an acquaintance, but I am sceptical that many women are attacked and raped by strangers who jump out at them and then do not mention it or report it. Am I wrong on that? If so, please correct me.

The biggest indication that Rudy intended to rape Meredith is that Meredith was raped. The idea of violent rape as an afterthought is hard for me to understand. In fact I think that scenario is very unlikely. The most often quoted statistic for unreported rapes is 65%. I read one article that claimed that the conviction rate for rape is 2%. If Rudy attacked Meredith in the dark it would have made identification very difficult. In spite of the lack of previous offenses there can be no doubt that Rudy is a murderer and a rapist.

https://news.ku.edu/2014/03/03/law-professor-more-1-million-rapes-unreported-official-us-crime-statistics

 

[Ken Dine]

The biggest indication that Rudy intended to rape Meredith is that Meredith was raped. The idea of violent rape as an afterthought is hard for me to understand. In fact I think that scenario is very unlikely. The most often quoted statistic for unreported rapes is 65%. I read one article that claimed that the conviction rate for rape is 2%. If Rudy attacked Meredith in the dark it would have made identification very difficult. In spite of the lack of previous offenses there can be no doubt that Rudy is a murderer and a rapist.

https://news.ku.edu/2014/03/03/law-professor-more-1-million-rapes-unreported-official-us-crime-statistics

Good, you fixed the URL to your very interesting article.

Just a few relevant factoids I gleamed from your article:

Law professor: More than 1 million rapes unreported in official U.S. crime statistics

Fri, 03/07/2014

Rape happens to be one of the easiest crimes to under-report, for a variety of reasons. There is a very low conviction rate — only about 2 percent — for all rapes. That manifests itself in fewer cases coming to trial as they are viewed as harder to win, and less time and resources being invested in investigations.

Research has suggested that as many as 90 percent of rapes are committed by serial rapists or individuals who have committed the crime more than once.

“That gets validated when they’re not investigated,” Yung said of the perpetrators. “They can do it again and again. Police are essentially empowering rapists by not pursuing cases.”

There is little recourse for rape victims in many cases. If their complaint is determined “unfounded” or is never investigated, it is very difficult to take any sort of action without surrendering their anonymity.

- See more at: https://news.ku.edu/2014/03/03/law-...cial-us-crime-statistics#sthash.k1Jldx3E.dpuf

I also found FBI rape stats, but as your article reported, FBI crime stats may not be that accurate due to the under-reporting of rape by victims, and even when the rape is reported, often the local police fail to act or even report the rape to the FBI, so take these FBI stats with a grain of salt:

VIOLENCE AS A FACTOR FOR REPORTING RAPE

Forty-eight percent of female rape victims who received treatment for their rapes were reported to the police. A greater percentage of reported victimizations, compared to nonreported victimizations, involved medical treatment of the victims.

Fifty-nine percent of victims of a reported completed rape, compared to 17% of victims of an unreported completed rape, received medical attention (figure 1). U.S. females age 12 or older were victims of an estimated 98,970 attempted rapes, annually.

Thirty-nine percent of attempted rape victims were injured. Among injured victims, 42% stated the violence was reported to police.

Among injured victims, a higher percentage of reported attempted rapes (45%), compared to unreported attempted rapes (22%), received medical treatment (figure 2).

Seventeen percent (or 23,020) of the 135,550 completed or attempted sexual assaults annually against females age 12 or older resulted in an injury. Most sexual assault victims were not injured (83%).

Most uninjured sexual assault victims stated that the violence went unreported to the police (77%). Of those victims injured during a sexual assault, 41% of the violence was reported to police, and 57% went unreported.

Among injured sexual assault victims, a higher percentage of those whose assault was reported (37%), compared to victims of unreported crimes (18%), received treatment (figure 3).

BEING RAPED BY A STRANGER AS A FACTOR FOR REPORTING RAPE

The victim-offender relationship and informing the police The closer the relationship between the female victim and the offender, the greater the likelihood that the police would not be told about the rape or sexual assault.

When the offender was a current or former husband or boyfriend, about three-fourths of all victimizations were not reported to police (77% of completed rapes, 77% of attempted rapes, and 75% of sexual assaults not reported).

When the offender was a friend or acquaintance, 61% of completed rapes, 71% of attempted rapes, and 82% of sexual assaults were not reported.

When the offender was a stranger, 54% of completed rapes, 44% of attempted rapes, and 34% of sexual assaults were not reported to the police.


http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rsarp00.pdf

 

[RWVBWL]

Greetings,
As I'm kinda doin' a little project, sometimes I'm going to post some random tidbits of info for ya, that you might not have known of. Heck, it'll keep us GD folks up to par with the facts, ok?

Random fact:
Nara Capezzali was interviewed and deposed at 4:49pm on Tuesday, Nov. 27, 2007.

Not many, many months later.

Link:
http://www.amandaknoxcase.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/2007-11-27-Witness-deposition-Capezzali.pdf

 

[RWVBWL]

Another random factoid:
Patrick Lumumba's pad was searched.
There is a police report dated 9:35am on Nov. 6, 2007.

http://www.amandaknoxcase.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/lumumba-police-search.pdf

 

[Methos]

http://www.lanazione.it/cronaca/2012/01/28/660361-meredith_costo_record_filmato_dell_omicidio.shtml

Yes, this article from La Nazione essentially says what Grinder and Methos posted above (sorry Methos, I don't know how to make the grey quotes appear). Basically in addition to the animation film there was also constructed a database of the case files (and the time taken and people who worked on such).

How did you "graduate" here without knowing how to use the "quote"-tag? (just kidding )

Wouldn't that DB be interesting.

Maybe we've already been privy to parts of that database. I think the wiretapping was also part of this bill (but not totally certain).
[...]

I'm with christianahannah on this point, I think most of what is in that database is available online and both the TMoMK Wiki and AmandaKnoxCase.com are trying to resembe the database online.
The difference to the "real" database is that they have to work with scanned documents of sometimes p... poor quality instead of the text documents and that both of them also offer English translations (not needed in the original database. )
I haven't counted, but both sides seem to be close to reaching the famous "10.000 pages" mark
If the wiretapping was part of their assignment it isn't mentioned in the invoice.

 

[RWVBWL]

I don't know how to explain the traces of blood on my duvet

About the blood downstairs.
<snip>

Random factoid:
Stefano Bonassi,
the dude whose bed has blood drops, bloody lines on his duvet
and something that looks like blood from a knife handle imprint on his bed,
kind of similar to what was found from a bloody knife handle imprinted on Miss Kercher's bed upstairs),
mentions this:

"Normally I am disorganized but before leaving I put my room in perfect order because we tidied up the whole house.
However I left the duvet over the two bed cushions to avoid them getting covered with dust."

<snip>

"Before leaving, we washed the linens from our beds; mine were blue; we spread them in the hall where we prepared three strings. I don't know what to say regarding the blue pillowcase stained with blood because it was hanging and clean when I left."

"We have two cats. We keep the black one in the house; the other is more of a stray one and stays outside. The black cat fell ill on Tuesday, October 26, I think; its right ear was injured. However I remember that it was eating; under the small sink in the small bathroom it lost a lot of blood because it was shaking its head. Those days, Meredith had the keys from from my place."

"I don't know how to explain the traces of blood on my duvet given that my door was locked with a key as well as the window. Ricardo had also closed (locked) everything."

<snip>


Here are 3 links to Stefano's Bonassi's depositions:

Link:
1) Nov. 2, 2007
http://www.amandaknoxcase.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Stefano-Bonassi-Statement-2-Nov-2007.pdf

2) Nov. 3, 2007.
he is now sworn to secrecy.
http://www.amandaknoxcase.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Stefano-Bonassi-Statement-3-Nov-2007.pdf

3) Nov. 4, 2007.
http://www.amandaknoxcase.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Stefano-Bonassi-Statement-4-Nov-2007.pdf

It's odd that on Nov. 4, '07,
of the 4 boyz livin' downstairs,
only Stefano is interviewed again by ILE.
How come?

Were the cats blood results already back in?
Or where the cops toooo focused on Amanda Knox?

* * *

The cops also seem interested in someone else on Nov. 4th, '07

"Also, another young man visited our place, nicknamed “the baron,” shorter than myself, whose name I do not remember, of South African origin."

"One evening, I found the latter person at my place as soon as I came back; he was with my friends. That time, the fellow was really drunk and actually fell asleep on the toilet bowl."

* * *

The cops sure seem to be interested in the sneakers of this South African male,
nicknamed "the baron", heck, in the Nov. 4, '07 depo,
they had Stefano draw them.

"I don’t remember exactly the South African guy’s tennis shoes however the shoes were likely of size 43; they were not common (normal)."

Attached is a drawing by Bonassi of the shoes in question.

* * *

Hmmm,
Stefano drew "the baron's" sneakers for the cops on Nov. 4th.
But where's the pic?

Scroll on down to page 3 of this Italian copy of Stefano's Nov. 4, '07 depo
to view the pic he drew for the police of, I believe, Rudy Guede's sneaker:
http://www.amandaknoxcase.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/2007-11-04-Witness-deposition-Bonassi.pdf

 

[Numbers]

Thanks Numbers,
for a much easier to understand explanation!

To try to understand better what you write of,
I looked at the chart up above again in the screen grab photo I posted,
it looks like Miss Kercher's profile is on Vaginal Swab 12B,
as is Rudy Guede's profile also.

Miss Kercher's profile is on Rectal Swab 13B,
but there is another Missing Profile here too on 13B,
from, per EZ1 Card, semen,
is this correct?

There are really 3 missing results.

To provide some background info, in rape kit swabs from female victims, the male cells, which could consist of sperm cells but also skin cells, will probably be present in relatively low quantities compared to the female cells. If the samples were analyzed the regular way, the male-source DNA and the female-source DNA would present a mixed profile in which it would likely be difficult to identify the male component. There could be overlap between male and female autosomal (not the XX or XY chromosome) loci, and the peaks from the male loci may be quite small compared to the female ones.

To address this issue, two different test techniques may be used: 1) physically separate sperm cells from the female and male skin cells, and test the sperm separately; or 2) examine the Y-chromosome present in the male cells for their markers, which won't be in any of the female cells. (This assumes the female victim is not transgender or one of the rare XY females (such as Swyer syndrome).)

In the work Stefanoni reported, the DNA profile results of the sperm DNA tests of the vaginal and rectal swabs were not reported, but information was provided to show that the initial steps of test had been carried out, up to quantification of DNA. Those are the first 2 missing results.

No information at all was presented for the Y chromosome testing for the rectal sample, so it is not clear whether or not that test was started. That is the third missing result.

The vaginal Y chromosome test was completed and the results were shown to be a match to Guede. The results of such a test, however, are not as specific as the regular DNA test (the full STR) and so many men closely and distantly related to Guede might not be excluded. However, since probably no other male relatives of Guede sharing his Y chromosome were in Perugia or Italy and had the opportunity to commit the crime, it seems reasonable to attribute the Y chromosome profile to Guede. And Guede left other evidence in the murder room. But the Y-chromosome DNA evidence can be interpreted as being from some skin cells, from some white blood cells, or from some sperm cells or some combination of these cell types.

I hope that the information provided above is helpful!

 

[Numbers]

If a rapist is smart he can go decades without being caught. The news is full of them, Bill Cosby is only the latest example. Women don't want to admit that they have been assaulted. This is why so few report the crime. Remember, Guede was only 21 at the time of the murder. I doubt that he intended to kill Meredith. The crime scene is disorganized. Meredith was determined to fight back and unfortunately... Guede's skill is in talking his way out of bad situations. He was able to feign remorse/regret to get a fairly short sentence. Even the ISC was impressed with Guede's performance and the fact that he fingered the other two defendants.

The murder and rape of Meredith Kercher could well have been Guede's first rape. There is no available information on his having committed any murder or rape prior to that.

I am not trying to be snarky in saying this, but even a murder or rapist who might go on to committing many such crimes must begin with a first one.

What I have speculated on is the intent of Guede in breaking into a flat occupied, as he well knew, by 4 young women, two of whom he had met in the downstairs flat when he visited the boys downstairs, who must have considered him their friend or acquaintance. The downstairs boys not only played basketball with him but hosted him in their flat.

 

[Strozzi]

About the blood downstairs. Do we really think that the police would hide the results if the DNA was Rudy's. And if it matched Raffaele, you know they would have disclosed it. What if it was an unknown male? That would show multiple assailants and not the innocents. Sword they really do all of this KNOWING that it wasn't Amanda and Raffaele? That doesn't seem likely to me.

The wrong-date details that the police extracted from Sollecito without permitting him to look at a calendar to keep dates straight, and the false confession that Napoleoni and her immediate colleagues extracted from Knox after feeding her false information that she was there but did not remember it because she was traumatized, convinced the police and prosecutors that Knox and possibly Sollecito were involved in the murder. The murder occurred upstairs. Whatever happened downstairs was secondary. It was post-murder.

The prosecution apparently felt that they didn't need to go into or persue the downstairs activity because it was secondary. The case being made against the perps was based on what the prosecution believed the perps did upstairs. It appears that the police or prosecution did not pursue further what Stefanoni's lab results were showing. Possibly because it showed Rudi's presence downstairs. Once he was extradited back to Perugia, arrested there, and his involvement upstairs known, there was no further prosecution need to show more of what Rudi did after he left the upstairs crime scene and split off from the others.

It was desirable in his trial not to reveal what Stefanoni developed downstairs, as it would only strengthen Knox's and Sollecito's defense. Remember that the formal indictment of Knox and Sollecito was still a year off from the Nov 2007 arrests and the processing of evidence. By the time they were on trial, Rudi had been convicted in his fast-track trial and Mignini was focused on convicting them. Why show what Rudi did downstairs; it would only help the two remaining defendants' defense? As for the downstairs blood and human presence issues, shut it down. Ascribe it to the cat, and shut it down.

 

[Desert Fox]

It is interesting how often the police and prosecution have a hard time with discovery. They seem to often like not revealing to the defense all of the evidence related to a case.

 

[Bill Williams]

It is interesting how often the police and prosecution have a hard time with discovery. They seem to often like not revealing to the defense all of the evidence related to a case.

They certainly loved making selective leaks to the press!

 

[acbytesla]

The wrong-date details that the police extracted from Sollecito without permitting him to look at a calendar to keep dates straight, and the false confession that Napoleoni and her immediate colleagues extracted from Knox after feeding her false information that she was there but did not remember it because she was traumatized, convinced the police and prosecutors that Knox and possibly Sollecito were involved in the murder. The murder occurred upstairs. Whatever happened downstairs was secondary. It was post-murder.

The prosecution apparently felt that they didn't need to go into or persue the downstairs activity because it was secondary. The case being made against the perps was based on what the prosecution believed the perps did upstairs. It appears that the police or prosecution did not pursue further what Stefanoni's lab results were showing. Possibly because it showed Rudi's presence downstairs. Once he was extradited back to Perugia, arrested there, and his involvement upstairs known, there was no further prosecution need to show more of what Rudi did after he left the upstairs crime scene and split off from the others.

It was desirable in his trial not to reveal what Stefanoni developed downstairs, as it would only strengthen Knox's and Sollecito's defense. Remember that the formal indictment of Knox and Sollecito was still a year off from the Nov 2007 arrests and the processing of evidence. By the time they were on trial, Rudi had been convicted in his fast-track trial and Mignini was focused on convicting them. Why show what Rudi did downstairs; it would only help the two remaining defendants' defense? As for the downstairs blood and human presence issues, shut it down. Ascribe it to the cat, and shut it down.

I understand the police trying to trick someone they believe committed a crime into slipping up and saying something incriminating. I see this totally different than covering up exculpatory evidence. You might very well be able to justify not giving Raffaele the calendar (maybe) to keep Raffaele off balance. But to ignore evidence that points to other suspects is unforgivable.

 

[christianahannah]

How did you "graduate" here without knowing how to use the "quote"-tag? (just kidding )

I was able to skip that part for my graduate degree. I did try tapping the quotes in the grey areas but they didn't quote over in my post. Maybe I didn't tap hard enough?

I'm with christianahannah on this point, I think most of what is in that database is available online and both the TMoMK Wiki and AmandaKnoxCase.com are trying to resembe the database online.
The difference to the "real" database is that they have to work with scanned documents of sometimes p... poor quality instead of the text documents and that both of them also offer English translations (not needed in the original database. )
I haven't counted, but both sides seem to be close to reaching the famous "10.000 pages" mark
If the wiretapping was part of their assignment it isn't mentioned in the invoice.

I don't think they were responsible for the translation of the wiretapping but the wiretapping, photos, etc. were a part of the database.

 

[christianahannah]

Hi Christianahannah,
You know this case well,
but I don't think I recall reading much of what you think of the downstairs crime scene,
and it's connection, if any, to upstairs...

If you have time, read this,
The Secret Downstairs Crime Scene
here:
http://murderofmeredithkercher.com/blood-evidence-downstairs-apartment/


This screen grab from the downstairs bed of Stefano
is odd shaped for a cat to leave, would you agree?
[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=480&pictureid=9918[/qimg]


Heck, it almost looks like a like what the imprint
of the bloody knife handle left on Meredith's bed looked like:
[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=480&pictureid=9262[/qimg]


Look at the other photo's on the webpage linked up above,
that sure is a lot of cats blood dropped downstairs.

What do you think of the missing test results?

It's interesting to read the English translation of the boyz downstairs police station interviews in chronological order,
I hope to read of Meredith's luver, Giacomo's soon also.

I honestly haven't thought the downstairs was significant in Meredith's murder (in that it played a part in her murder). The bloody image in the film capture is interesting but I don't think it can be tied to the bloody image on Meredith's bed. For theory if it was made by the same object wouldn't the blood have been less on that object by the time it laid on the downstairs bed?

I also don't think there are missing test results, however, I know there are others who do not agree with me.

I am willing to read what you have linked and will let you know if any of it changes my opinion.

 

[Strozzi]

I understand the police trying to trick someone they believe committed a crime into slipping up and saying something incriminating. I see this totally different than covering up exculpatory evidence. You might very well be able to justify not giving Raffaele the calendar (maybe) to keep Raffaele off balance. But to ignore evidence that points to other suspects is unforgivable.

The downstairs evidence must point to Rudi. There is no indication from the murder scene in Meredith's room that someone else was in the room with Rudi. Thus, nobody else but Rudi would have taken refuge downstairs. Withholding details of Rudi going downstairs is a different level of deception and trial manipulation than withholding evidence of a second assailant having taken refuge there. It is still obstruction of justice and denial of exculpatory evidence. It is just that had evidence of a second assailant been withheld, that would be a more severe violation.

An analogy, but one with much less significance than the issue of was Rudi downstairs, is withholding information about how Amanda's lamp got to Meredith's room. It might have been brought there by the first police who responded after the Postal Police called Perugia Police. If that is how, and the police and prosecution know that one of their own moved the lamp into Meredith's room, they are benefitting from concealing it, as their failure to disclose how the lamp was moved casts suspicion on Knox. It is her lamp.

 

[acbytesla]

The downstairs evidence must point to Rudi. There is no indication from the murder scene in Meredith's room that someone else was in the room with Rudi. Thus, nobody else but Rudi would have taken refuge downstairs. Withholding details of Rudi going downstairs is a different level of deception and trial manipulation than withholding evidence of a second assailant having taken refuge there. It is still obstruction of justice and denial of exculpatory evidence. It is just that had evidence of a second assailant been withheld, that would be a more severe violation.

An analogy, but one with much less significance than the issue of was Rudi downstairs, is withholding information about how Amanda's lamp got to Meredith's room. It might have been brought there by the first police who responded after the Postal Police called Perugia Police. If that is how, and the police and prosecution know that one of their own moved the lamp into Meredith's room, they are benefitting from concealing it, as their failure to disclose how the lamp was moved casts suspicion on Knox. It is her lamp.

I agree with all of this, There is only one reason to hide this and that is to minimize the true mountain of evidence against Rudy compared to what they had against our heroes

 

[zotz]

"Only 2 of the 18 “cat blood” traces failed to quantify at least some human DNA.
Of the 20 blood-positive traces, 8 had sufficient quantity of human DNA such that, per the Lab’s practice, they could be genetically profiled. Of these 8 traces, the Lab records suggest that at least 6 were genetically-profiled (via STR analysis), but none of the ensuing 6 profiles have been disclosed by the prosecution."

LAWYER BONGIORNO- "Professor in light of this analysis, therefore, since you have done this documentation I ask two things: if I had been able to deliver this documentation before hand, could you have done a more complete analysis and, however I believe that we have already explained with precision, exactly what is lacking and in what places?"

Consultant – "What is missing affects the interpretation and assessment of the result, these are results which need to be clearly backed up through an analytic approach which does not appear to be documented here, not only does it not appear to be documented but there are actually things affirmed that are different to what is reported in the… in these reports which have been shown."

Either this is more sloppy lab work by Stefanoni or it is evidence suppression, or both.
Probably Bongiorno decided not to push the issue with Massei because of his pro-prosecution bias. She should have objected to this scientific sloppiness anyway. I wonder if she brought this matter up in her appeal of the Massei conviction.