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Australia's Gun Problem

I've been there twice, don't need to go back. I'll be aware of claims when I visit NZ, see if the Kiwis are able to resist being totally dominated by American culture.

Ranb
 
Loaded rifle found in stolen car

POLICE found a stolen, loaded rifle while searching a car following a traffic stop in Gilmore yesterday.

Police-afp-cops-9720-400x266About 3.45pm, a stolen Nissan Pulsar was stopped by a police patrol on Heagney Crescent, Gilmore, and a 26-year-old female . A male was arrested in relation to the stolen car. On searching the vehicle, police found a loaded, shortened .22-calibre rifle and ammunition.
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More evidence of the rampant gun problem in Australia.
 
Huge gun cache in Fisher

ACT Policing has seized a number of firearms along with ammunition following a warrant executed at a residence in Fisher yesterday (Thursday, May 28).

Acting on information received from the public, members from Woden General Duties executed the search warrant where a number of items were seized.

Those items included seven rifles, a revolver, a pistol, a double barrel shotgun along with in excess 3,000 rounds of ammunition and an amount of gun powder.

Police identified that the resident had been a NSW licenced firearms holder, however his licence had since been revoked.
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Right on my doorstep! :eek:
 
More evidence of Australia's gun problem:

Bikie shootings / Police making progress and asking for help

ACT Policing has unveiled major developments in the investigation of a number of Canberra shootings, which are believed to be Outlaw Motorcycle Gang-related.

The shootings occurred overnight between Thursday 12 and Friday 13 March, with shots fired at homes in Boustead Circuit, Kambah, Barlee Place, Stirling and Pawsey Circuit, Florey. The shooting in Stirling resulted in non-life threatening injuries to a 36-year-old man.

After a public call for witnesses at the time of the incidents, police received information that a person located in Adelaide, South Australia, may wish to provide information relating to the shootings. During subsequent investigations, members of ACT Policing Criminal Investigations Taskforce Nemesis travelled to Adelaide and seized a handgun and a number of rounds of ammunition.
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Nice euphemism there in that last paragraph.

Who was it suggesting that Australian criminals don't have guns again?
 
Hungry81 said:
I don't know. Did anyone ever say that?
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Well, as I said at the top of the thread, it's often implied (by me and by others) that Australia's gun laws are an ideal solution to the gun problem. They're not. They're the best we've got, and they're certainly a hell of a lot better than America's, but when discussing gun politics, it's important to remember that Australia is not immune to gun crime.
 
If Bikie gangs want to off each other and take themselves out of the Gene pool...my response is let them go for it!

What we don't seem to have any more is "normal" people who lose it, and shoot up schools, picture theatres, churches, public events, or snipers who randomly shoot people. Career criminals tend not to do these sort of things, as it is frowned upon, and not good for business.

The simple fact that gang shootings do get so much publicity here is evidence that these events really do not occur all that often. Does every gang shooting in the USA hit page one in the news?

Norm
 
devnull said:
The odd thing about it is that the greens want no guns, but dont care about the environmental impact that would have :jaw-dropp
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Unfortunately most greens (anywhere ) seem to have a laissez faire attitude about the environment in the sense they want it to be left alone to be "natural". I am pretty sure this has never been a really good/well thought out idea.
 
The aims and tactics of the gun lobby must be publicly exposed
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What are these tactics?

That personal protection should never be regarded as a genuine reason for owning, possessing or using a firearm.
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Never, except for some people?

A total ban on the ownership, importation and use of semi-automatic firearms;
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I doubt it, what about the police and military?

I've purchased bullet molds from a manufacturer in Australia in the past. I wonder if they would like to see this type of activity licensed or restricted also?

Ranb
 
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When talking about gun control, people are very rarely including police and the military in their consideration.

Bringing up police and the military is spurious in this context.
 
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devnull said:
Maybe the greens should alert their membership to these policies :)
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I'm a member. I'm well acquainted with their policies. In respect to your original comment, the ACT Greens were instrumental in bringing in kangaroo culling in order to protect the grassland ecosystems around Canberra, which directly contradicts your contention - they're happy for strictly regulated uses of firearms where necessary

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arthwollipot said:
When talking about gun control, people are very rarely including police and the military in their consideration.

Bringing up police and the military is spurious in this context.
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Nope. When I talk gun control I frequently bring the police into it. The police in the USA are subject to gun control laws as well as the rest of us. They are sometimes exempt from certain laws, sometimes not. The gun controls laws in MN and WA are an example. Laws in these states recently changed to greatly ease controls on the police as far as some types of firearms are concerned.

catsmate said:
What's wrong with a generally unarmed police force?
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Nothing. I was wondering if the Greens included the police and military in their policy or not.

Ranb
 
Ranb said:
Nope. When I talk gun control I frequently bring the police into it. The police in the USA are subject to gun control laws as well as the rest of us. They are sometimes exempt from certain laws, sometimes not. The gun controls laws in MN and WA are an example. Laws in these states recently changed to greatly ease controls on the police as far as some types of firearms are concerned.
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Yeah, well, that's you. I'm far more concerned about civilian gun ownership than I am about police and military. When I talk about gun control, I talk about civilian gun ownership. I'm perfectly happy for the police and military to have guns. They have proper training and regulation.
 
10 guns seized in Theodore

Members from ACT Policing’s Tuggeranong and Woden Patrol’s, together with members from the Crime Reduction Team, conducted a series of search warrants under section 194 of the Crimes Act 1900.

During the execution of the warrants, police seized ten firearms from a Theodore residence. These included a number of semi-automatic .22 calibre rifles, a sawn-off .22 calibre rifle, two shot guns and a .38 calibre revolver. Approximately 700 rounds of ammunition were also seized. (firearms pictured)

None of the firearms, nor the ammunition were stored in accordance with the Firearms Act 1996. In addition, the pistol was loaded, contrary to the Firearms Act 1996.
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Demonstrator on way to Melbourne anti-Islamic rally had gun seized

A far-right protester who was travelling to Melbourne to take part in anti-Islamic rallies at the weekend had a gun confiscated by police.

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When arguing for the need for changed laws, [Victorian chief police commissioner] Ashton said a gun had been confiscated by New South Wales police from a bus carrying protesters. United Patriots Front (UPF) is the only known group that travelled from Sydney for the protests.

NSW police confirmed they confiscated a pistol from a 39-year-old man outside Central station on Friday night. The man is a registered gun owner and he was released while police investigated the safe keeping of the pistol.
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