Kellerman said he heard one shot, a delay and then a "flurry" of at least two closely spaced shots at the end.
Asked and answered. Kellerman *surmised* a flurry based on the number of wounds the two limo passengers suffered:
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Mr. KELLERMAN. I am going to say that I have, from the firecracker report and the two other shots that I know, those were three shots. But, Mr. Specter, if President Kennedy had from all reports four wounds, Governor Connally three, there have got to be more than three shots, gentlemen.
Senator COOPER. What is that answer? What did he say?
Mr. SPECTER. Will you repeat that, Mr. Kellerman?
Mr. KELLERMAN. President Kennedy had four wounds, two in the head and shoulder and the neck. Governor Connally, from our reports, had three. There have got to be more than three shots.
Representative FORD. Is that why you have described--
Mr. KELLERMAN. The flurry.
Representative FORD. The noise as a flurry?
Mr. KELLERMAN. That is right, sir.
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Greer heard one shot, a delay and then near simultaneous shots at the end. He also felt the "concussion" of the second shot, which is exactly what he would have felt if he was exposed to the shock wave of a passing bullet.
Asked and answered. Greer could have been hearing the impact of the bullet on the skull, and then the arrival of the sound of the bullet being fired.
Concussion: a violent shock as from a heavy blow. "the ground shuddered with the concussion of the blast"
Greer could have felt the impact of a piece of brain matter or skull upon his person. All the other passengers in the car described how the car was pelted with brain matter after the shot that struck JFK in the head.
For example, Governor Connally not only described the brain matter, he clearly differentiated between the sound of the final bullet being fired and the sound of the impact on the head.
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Governor CONNALLY. ... and then, of course, the third shot sounded, and I heard the shot very clearly. I heard it hit him. I heard the shot hit something, and I assumed again--it never entered my mind that it ever hit anybody but the President. I heard it hit. It was a very loud noise,just that audible, very clear.
Immediately I could see on my clothes, my clothing, I could see on the interior of the car which, as I recall, was a pale blue, brain tissue, which I immediately recognized, and I recall very well, on my trousers there was one chunk of brain tissue as big as almost my thumb, thumbnail, and again I did not see the President at any time either after the first, second, or third shots, but I assumed always that it was he who was hit and no one else.
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Nellie Connally also spoke of being pelted with brain matter from the President's head shot.
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The third shot that I heard I felt, it felt like spent buckshot falling all over us, and then, of course, I too could see that it was the matter, brain tissue, or whatever, just human matter, all over the car and both of us.
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Roy Kellerman also described it.
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Senator COOPER. One other question: You said the flurry of shots came in the car. You were leaning forward talking to the driver after the first shot. What made you aware of a flurry of shots?
Mr. KELLERMAN. Senator, between all the matter that was--between all the matter that was blown off from an injured person, this stuff all came over.
Senator COOPER. What was that?
Mr. KELLERMAN. Body matter; flesh.
Senator COOPER. When you were speaking of a flurry of shots, was there a longer interval between the first shot and the second shot as compared to the interval between the second shot and the third shot?
Mr. KELLERMAN. Yes, sir.
Mr. SPECTER. When did you first notice the substance which you have described as body matter?
Mr. KELLERMAN. When I got to the hospital, sir, it was all over my coat.
Mr. SPECTER. Did you notice it flying past you at any time prior to your arrival at the hospital?
Mr. KELLERMAN. Yes; I know there was something in the air.
Mr. SPECTER. When, in relation to the shots, Mr. Kellerman, did you notice the substance in the air?
Mr. KELLERMAN. Fine. When I have given the orders to Mr. Lawson, this is when it all came between the driver and myself.
Mr. SPECTER. Can you describe what it was in a little more detail as it appeared to you at that time?
Mr. KELLERMAN. This is a rather poor comparison, but let's say you take a little handful of matter--I am going to use sawdust for want of a better item--and just throw it.
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Jackie heard one shot, a delay and then two shots after Connally began to shout, circa app. 238.
Jackie said she heard two shots total. She was quite clear about that. She said she read about a third.
She also said there was always noise in the motorcade, and she heard terrible noises (plural) while facing to her left, then turned and saw her husband receiving a bullet. Her testimony doesn't support your argument, unless you have a special interpretative device no one else has.
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Mrs. KENNEDY. You know, there is always noise in a motorcade and there are always motorcycles, besides us, a lot of them backfiring. So I was looking to the left. I guess there was a noise, but it didn't seem like any different noise really because there is so much noise, motorcycles and things. But then suddenly Governor Connally was yelling, "Oh, no, no, no."
Mr. RANKIN. Did he turn toward you?
Mrs. KENNEDY. No; I was looking this way, to the left, and I heard these terrible noises. You know. And my husband never made any sound. So I turned to the right. And all I remember is seeing my husband, he had this sort of quizzical look on his face, and his hand was up, it must have been his left hand. And just as I turned and looked at him, I could see a piece of his skull and I remember it was flesh colored. I remember thinking he just looked as if he had a slight headache. And I just remember seeing that. No blood or anything.
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Mrs. KENNEDY. Well, there must have been two because the one that made me turn around was Governor Connally yelling. And it used to confuse me because first I remembered there were three and I used to think my husband didn't make any sound when he was shot. And Governor Connally screamed. And then I read the other day that it was the same shot that hit them both. But I used to think if I only had been looking to the right I would have seen the first shot hit him, then I could have pulled him down, and then the second shot would not have hit him. But I heard Governor Connally yelling and that made me turn around, and as I turned to the right my husband was doing this [indicating with hand at neck]. He was receiving a bullet. And those are the only two I remember. And I read there was a third shot. But I don't know. Just those two.
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And the large consensus of other witnesses reported the same thing the limo passengers did.
No, we examined a large subset of those witness claims, and found they are unclear, or susceptible of other interpretations. You are simply shoehorning the eyewitness statements into your theory, forcing pegs of various shapes into round holes.
Perhaps you have a better explanation for what they heard than they did.
Yes, I do. I offered the bulk of this before, but you simply hand-waved it away, or ignored it entirely.
In this post,
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=10748978#post10748978 you admitted there's no evidence of a shooter in the DalTex building, and then tried to make head-scratching meaningless excuses for why not. Like the building was never searched. But that's an excuse, not an explanation for why this weapon was never seen.
My explanation doesn't invoke multiple shooters that arrive unseen, fire unseen weapons, hit the President but leave no damage to the body discernible to the autopsists, leave no fragments behind that are traceable to any weapons but Oswald's, and then vanish into thin air.
Do you have any evidence, for example, of the Dal-Tex shooter and weapon you conjecture? No.
The weapon is never seen brought into the building,
The weapon is never seen fired from the building,
The weapon's bullet(s) cause(s) no discernible damage,
The weapon's bullet(s) leaves(s) no discernible remnants of bullet(s) behind,
The weapon is never seen removed from the building,
The weapon is never found within the building after the shooting.
Gee, almost like the weapon never existed at all.
In fact,
exactly like the weapon never existed at all.
That's a better explanation than yours.
Mine doesn't invoke straw man logical fallacies, post hoc logical fallacies, shifting the burden of proof logical fallacies, conjectures, hearsay, and supposition. And imaginary weapons popping up and disappearing.
That's a better explanation than yours.
I expect you'll simply hand-wave this away, or ignore it all again.
Hank
