Christianity and in vitro fertilization

Minoosh

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It takes a bit to set this up. I listen to a conservative, evangelical Christian radio personality named Dave Ramsey. He gives financial advice to fans who call in. He makes it a point to discuss religious beliefs as they relate to financial matters.

Recently a 35-year-old woman, who had one child by in vitro fertilization, asked Ramsey about going into debt to try for another round of IVF treatments. He said he hated the idea of going into debt for it, and proposed waiting a year to save the money. That was the only concern he expressed.

It didn't occur to me until later that IVF generally seeks to create multiple fertilized eggs, then grade the zygotes to pick the best 2 or 3. I got to wondering how this affects the view of "life begins at conception."

In researching around I found quite a few opinions on the subject. The Catholic Church is against it, period. One or two prominent evangelicals are against it on principle, mainly the "life begins at conception" principle. On certain Christian blogs, myriad other evangelicals bring up certain other objections, and in my mind, they curiously downplay what I thought would be the main objection: Destruction of surplus zygotes.

One woman had a handy rationalization: It's not a life until it is implanted in the womb. There was a lot of talk about seeking guidance from God through prayer. "God made IVF technology" was another one. There were practical suggestions such as freezing eggs so they could be fertilized two at a time later.

The other objections seemed like a smokescreen to me, saying the technology interfered with the "one flesh" doctrine; that babies should be made only through God's time-honored process of two loving Christian spouses doing the sacred conjugal act; etc. Surprisingly little was said about the destruction of zygotes. It all seemed like a lot of hemming and hawing and saying, seek God's guidance, then go with your heart.

This makes me wonder if there has been any softening of the position on stem cell research. It sure sounded like it. If an evangelical Christian wanting IVF could be assured that her extra embryos would be, in the very early stages, treated respectfully and that their lives would have meaning by contributing to lifesaving or life-altering treatments, why not?

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I find that I have posted something very similar on another thread. I'm not trying to sneakily bump that thread - I didn't remember I had posted that!
 
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Considering the way that Christians are all over the map when it comes to birth control issues and abortion issues,

then one should not be surprised to see a good bit Christian confusion when it comes to procreation issues as well.
 
"God made IVF technology" was another one.

A curious rationale there. Obviously the Catholics would disagree with that one!
As would any rational person who stops and thinks about it.

It would make as much sense to say that The Devil invented it.



God could have, for example, if he wanted all people to be able to have babies, made sure that no-one was infertile. In fact, "It's The Devil's work" makes a lot more sense than this is what God wanted, from a theological perspective.

You can use religious arguments to rationalize just about anything it seems, and either way you want to have it too, of course. You can find religious reason why you shouldn't and a religious reason why you should. Whichever result you want it to be, there's a way to argue it that way (probably a fallacious way, but that's par for the course with religious reasoning).
 
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One woman had a handy rationalization: It's not a life until it is implanted in the womb. There was a lot of talk about seeking guidance from God through prayer. "God made IVF technology" was another one. There were practical suggestions such as freezing eggs so they could be fertilized two at a time later.
I'm unaware of any xian sect that adheres to this view.

Surprisingly little was said about the destruction of zygotes. It all seemed like a lot of hemming and hawing and saying, seek God's guidance, then go with your heart.
It's a pretty often raised point by the RCC.

This makes me wonder if there has been any softening of the position on stem cell research. It sure sounded like it. If an evangelical Christian wanting IVF could be assured that her extra embryos would be, in the very early stages, treated respectfully and that their lives would have meaning by contributing to lifesaving or life-altering treatments, why not?
Evangelicals almost entirely oppose harvesting stem cells from embryos; they believe they are people.
 
I'm unaware of any xian sect that adheres to this view.

Which view? Several were expressed in that paragraph.

It's a pretty often raised point by the RCC.

Yes, Roman Catholic doctrine is consistent. I almost titled this thread "Evangelical Christians and IVF" but went with the broader designation.

Evangelicals almost entirely oppose harvesting stem cells from embryos; they believe they are people.

But I did not find this particular belief to be consistently emphasized in evangelical blogs when it came to discarding embryos. I found two prominent evangelicals opposed to in vitro on that principle, but also found a lot of wiggle room in various blog entries. If people can talk themselves into justifying the practice of grading embryos for implantation, they might be able to talk themselves into making leftover embryos available for lifesaving research.

I suppose it's not that different from Roman Catholics who use birth control. There is a sect's official viewpoint, then there is what people actually do.

A Christian understanding of in vitro fertilization


http://www.ministrymagazine.org/archive/2012/07/a-christian-understanding-of-in-vitro-fertilization

In the end, couples must come to a unified decision for each other, themselves, and their potential children. Both spouses need to determine if IVF and the results of the process are glorifying to God, and consider if the physical risks of IVF—for the wife and the potential children—seem appropriate and wise.

The author seems to take for granted that embryos will be discarded - it is mentioned as one factor to be weighed, but the writer does not single it out as a deal-breaker.

A Boston Globe article talks about bioethicist Jennifer Lahl, whose top objection is destruction of embryos.

What about IVF? The embryo technology that evangelicals don’t oppose
http://www.boston.com/news/science/articles/2010/10/10/what_about_ivf/
Should evangelical Christians accept IVF so easily? No, says Jennifer Lahl. The director of the Center for Bioethics and Culture Network in San Francisco, Lahl has become a lone voice for a message that many of her fellow evangelicals are uncomfortable hearing: If embryos are human lives, she argues, then it is time for Christians to be consistent about their moral objections and unite against IVF......

....In her campaign against IVF, Lahl has found herself with little company among evangelicals. Despite her efforts, most of her coreligionists view IVF as acceptable for couples in need of a doctor’s help to start a family, even as they may fight to stop abortion or embryonic stem cell research.

I suppose the main difference between Catholicism and other versions of Christianity is that Protestants/evangelicals do not recognize a central and infallible human authority. On personal blogs the most common suggestion I found was to seek guidance in prayer. Potential destruction of embryos was downplayed.
 
Except that even the traditional method of pregnancy commonly discards zygotes.

In this study, about 16% of them, after implantation.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejm198812223192501

If you consider the number of zygotes that do not implant, the rate is much higher. This number is essentially impossible to quantify, because women are unaware of a preimplantation zygote passing through. Obviously some couples experience much higher rates of spontaneous loss, hence the need for IVF.

When GWBush initially placed restrictions on federal funding for stem cell research in the USA, my first thought was, "Why do they continue to allow IVF??? The zygotes are being flushed down the toilet anyway??!!!"

Just goes to show the folly of political reasoning from religious principles.
 

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