Continuation Part 16: Amanda Knox/Raffaele Sollecito

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Can you explain why it is an "offensive proposition" for Kercher to meet Amanda?

DNA evidence showed Mez DNA on the blade of the murder weapon and Amanda's on the hilt. Witness Kokomani, in addition, reported being threatened by a drug-crazed Amanda on the murder night, brandishing a large knife.

Amanda showed great glee and excitement after his daughter's murder; said, "**** happens!", and to this day, cannot bring herself to say his daughter's name.

Who should apologise to whom?
 
DNA evidence showed Mez DNA on the blade of the murder weapon and Amanda's on the hilt. Witness Kokomani, in addition, reported being threatened by a drug-crazed Amanda on the murder night, brandishing a large knife.

Amanda showed great glee and excitement after his daughter's murder; said, "**** happens!", and to this day, cannot bring herself to say his daughter's name.

Who should apologise to whom?
Kercher should apologise to Amanda and very soon, so the death threats stop.
 
Where is the evidence that in the Central Park 5 case that: "the police thought they had "voluntary" admissions"? Has it been shown objectively that the police (and prosecutor, now a crime-mystery novelist) did not simply choose "suspects of convenience" in that case, and used coercive interrogation techniques to obtain (inconsistent) confessions? The lack of DNA evidence against the CP5 (and indication by the DNA evidence of a different individual as the rapist) did not alter the police and prosecution drive to quickly close the case....this may be a strong similarity to the AK-RS case.

It's all laid out systematically in Sarah Burns documentary.
 
How do you know he hasn't? The Kerchers haven't said anything much at all in the last couple of years. Certainly nothing concrete.

I don't know - but if he did ask at least some of the right questions he wouldn't have received any satisfactory answers. "Why is there no evidence of Knox in the room?" "Um...she cleaned it up" "Where's the evidence of the cleanup?" "Um...there's some bleach in the cupboard".
 
DNA evidence showed Mez DNA on the blade of the murder weapon and Amanda's on the hilt. Witness Kokomani, in addition, reported being threatened by a drug-crazed Amanda on the murder night, brandishing a large knife.

Amanda showed great glee and excitement after his daughter's murder; said, "**** happens!", and to this day, cannot bring herself to say his daughter's name.

Who should apologise to whom?

The murder weapon was never found. It probably was never searched for once the police randomly selected the knife from Raffaele's which became exhibit 36.

The DNA analysis on Exhibit 36 all-but proves it it not the murder weapon. 36B is useless, esp since it is not blood DNA. 36I is Amanda's, as is 36A.

These facts led to their exonerations. It's way too late to make posts with factoids which assume they prove guilt.
 
DNA evidence showed Mez DNA on the blade of the murder weapon and Amanda's on the hilt. Witness Kokomani, in addition, reported being threatened by a drug-crazed Amanda on the murder night, brandishing a large knife.

Amanda showed great glee and excitement after his daughter's murder; said, "**** happens!", and to this day, cannot bring herself to say his daughter's name.

Who should apologise to whom?

? I asked you why it was an offensive proposition that Kercher should meet Amanda?

Kokomani also talked about bin bags, throwing olives, gap teeth and an American uncle. All that was rubbish too as is the rest of your stuff. You think we should accept the knife DNA when the reading was "too low"? Why?
 
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DNA evidence showed Mez DNA on the blade of the murder weapon and Amanda's on the hilt. Witness Kokomani, in addition, reported being threatened by a drug-crazed Amanda on the murder night, brandishing a large knife.

Amanda showed great glee and excitement after his daughter's murder; said, "**** happens!", and to this day, cannot bring herself to say his daughter's name.

Who should apologise to whom?

Cannot say Meredith’s name? This is wrong and obviously wrong.
 
Why is she making death threats to Mr Kercher at all?
She isn't, Amanda receives death threats, and Kercher should apologise for wrongfully prosecuting her, and publicly demand his followers stop making death threats. I would, wouldn't you?
 
Do you think she wrote the statement in Italian herself?

When the police chief, De Felice, said they questioned her until she buckled and "told us what we knew to be correct", what do you think that meant. Since she told them a falsehood but it was what they knew to be correct how did she know what they believed to be correct?

I can only think of one way and that's they got her to agree with their POV for a few hours before she started writing the notes expressing doubt in what she had signed.


The police will often transcribe the statement from the verbal. Read it back and then get it signed, including a proviso, "I understand I can change or add to this statement at any time."

You don't agree with this standard procedure?
 
She isn't, Amanda receives death threats, and Kercher should apologise for wrongfully prosecuting her, and publicly demand his followers stop making death threats. I would, wouldn't you?

John Kercher had nothing to do with the prosecution.

I doubt his "followers" are making any such death threats. Probably the usual nutters who enjoy writing "poison pen".
 
The Kerchers have no obligation to anyone, and if they want to lie low and deal with this in private that's entirely their right. They were led astray by bad police work and I can completely see why they might not have been able to seek information for themselves - I think I would find it all very, very painful to confront.
 
I agree. This is a far better way of putting all of it than I have been able to manage. Whatever the early "dogma" was, even then it was not the driver of the case - what tended to drive this case was the myth of "Foxy Knoxy" that the PLE tried to construct. There is very little which emanated from the FOA which "drove" what went wrong with the case in Perugia (and Florence) - unless one believes in all powerful PR firms from Seattle!

I posted a Washington Post article upthread which referred to the 1990s and beyond where there were some prosecutorial jurisdictions which seemed stuck on Satanic-related crimes. There was one in Martensville, Saskatchewan. Over 100 charges were filed, and one conviction resulted, in a satanic-hysteria which took over the investigation.

It is clear that in relation to AK (as well as RS), this theme was a driver; but was also abandoned. Seems to me to be something a little more central to what went wrong early on than anything the early FOA did or didn't do.

The WashPo article wouldn't load for me, but I agree this is an important line of thought.

The 'satanic ritual abuse' theme of Mcmartin preschool and others in the US is, imo, a flame shot round the world.

The satanic angle Mignini tried to use in the Kercher case, was a continuation of the same fraudulent hoax he and Giuttari had been pursuing in their Narducci trail cases going back to 2002 (possibly 2001), and even earlier. Giuttari invented the satanic sect as an element in the Monster of Florence cases in the trials of Vanni and Lotti as accomplices to Pacciani, I think around 1998 (but I'd have to go back and check).

Pacciani was acquitted on appeal in 1996, but Giuttari produced his 4 'algebraic witnesses' claiming to support Pacciani's guilt, along with Vanni and Lotti. Of course none of them had anything to do with the Monster of Florence crimes, the credibility of the 'half-wits and lowlifes' that were the algebraics has been thoroughly discredited.

Interestingly though, there is a bloody rag found after one of the MOF killings, the Scopetti rag I think), which may be susceptible to modern DNA analysis. Perhaps Italian law enforcement will pursue such further testing, if they decide they would like to know the truth of the MOF killings, instead of hanging their hats on the two plainly wrongful convictions of Vanni and Lotti.
 
The murder weapon was never found. It probably was never searched for once the police randomly selected the knife from Raffaele's which became exhibit 36.

The DNA analysis on Exhibit 36 all-but proves it it not the murder weapon. 36B is useless, esp since it is not blood DNA. 36I is Amanda's, as is 36A.

These facts led to their exonerations. It's way too late to make posts with factoids which assume they prove guilt.

Yeah, well, we have to ask why Raf got his defense team to demand the police "search the bushes for the murder weapon", and, sure enough, in the undergrowth was a knife and some bloody tissues.

Sceptics might wonder whether this was part of the staged scene. Rudy supposedly hiding in the same bushes, with his burglar's swag bag, burglar's mask, striped prison top and stolen train emergency hammer, waiting to discover whether the boulder he's just thrown 10' has caused anyone to stir inside the house.

Ri-ight.
 
John Kercher had nothing to do with the prosecution.

I doubt his "followers" are making any such death threats. Probably the usual nutters who enjoy writing "poison pen".
John Kercher was a prime mover. Five Kerchers actively, in filed court documents, appealed the 2011 acquittal , joined the prosecution, before reading the impeccable Hellman logic. Disgraceful. I will post the full document again if you wish, and never again will you contend Kercher had nothing to do with the prosecution..
 
The murder weapon was never found. It probably was never searched for once the police randomly selected the knife from Raffaele's which became exhibit 36.

The DNA analysis on Exhibit 36 all-but proves it it not the murder weapon. 36B is useless, esp since it is not blood DNA. 36I is Amanda's, as is 36A.

These facts led to their exonerations. It's way too late to make posts with factoids which assume they prove guilt.


They are not "exonerated". We already established that technical legal fact.
 
The Kerchers have no obligation to anyone, and if they want to lie low and deal with this in private that's entirely their right. They were led astray by bad police work and I can completely see why they might not have been able to seek information for themselves - I think I would find it all very, very painful to confront.
That is a construction I find absurd. They actively prosecuted against the evidence, blinded by the lure of the lira.
 
Yes, and you are demanding John Kercher meets this callous person?

Apologies, you have me confused with someone else. I have never demanded this.

Have you missed the number of times Amanda has said tha Meredith was her friend and the real victim here.

Meredith is a victim of Rudy Guede's. AK and RS were (past tense) victims of Mignini.
 
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