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Russ Faria might be getting a re-trial

I don't know. If I had to choose between her and Russ Faria though, then it wouldn't take too long.

The problem is that she was never properly looked into for the crime.
The police appear to have fixated on the husband and ignored any other possibility.
She may have done it or she may have had someone else do it, but neither of those options were explored.

I simply don't see how the husband was found guilty and there's only one other credible choice with the current evidence.
The guy had a very, very good alibi and there's not been any inconsistencies found in it, as far as I can see.
I can't even work out how the prosecution thinks that he did it, to be honest.
What's their timeline? They don't even seem to have established a TOD.

The idea is reasonable doubt. . . . .Do you have any reasonable doubt that either she wielded the knife or had somebody (maybe her husband) wield the knife. Putting it that way, I think I would convict.

She, in turn, cannot blame the husband because he has an alibi.
 
The idea is reasonable doubt. . . . .Do you have any reasonable doubt that either she wielded the knife or had somebody (maybe her husband) wield the knife. Putting it that way, I think I would convict.

She, in turn, cannot blame the husband because he has an alibi.

I don't think that I'd convict Hupp based upon the current evidence, as I don't believe that the case against her has been put under enough scrutiny.
There's enough there to put her on trial though, in my opinion.

She has an obvious motive, her alibi doesn't hold up, she ignored phone calls at the time that the murder was probably committed, her story keeps changing and the insurance change doesn't make any sense at all.
It's not enough to put the knife in her hands, but it's far more than they have on the guy sitting in jail for the murder.
 
Still not sure how the prosecution was allowed to argue their conspiracy theory in closing. Doesn't that break some kind of rules?
 
Still not sure how the prosecution was allowed to argue their conspiracy theory in closing. Doesn't that break some kind of rules?

Usually cases where the prosecutor argues something which he or she can show no evidence will get tossed at the appeal level. David Camm's second trial is a good example.
 
Usually cases where the prosecutor argues something which he or she can show no evidence will get tossed at the appeal level. David Camm's second trial is a good example.

Crappy that they get a free pass in the trial. Doesn't seem like the defense gets that kind of leeway.
 
The more I read about this case, the less sense the whole thing makes.
I'm mystified as to how it even got to trial, as there doesn't even appear to be a coherent prosecution case as to what happened and very little in the way of motive.


You are quite right that the prosecution never had a coherent case or a coherent theory of the case; even during the trial, they would not even give a time range within which they were alleging that the murder took place. This is ludicrous in a case like this where it is certain that it was a very small window. Of course, the reason for that is that they knew darned well that Russ Faria had an airtight alibi from roughly 5 p.m. to roughly 9:39 p.m. and they knew darn well that Betsy Faria was killed at around 7:00-7:30 p.m. Their problem was that they railroaded an innocent man; they compounded that problem by putting an actual viable suspect forward as their star witness, rather than following the evidence. That led to them making all sorts of ludicrous (and in my view, indefensible) strategic decisions, that turned this prosecution into a bizarre and Machaveillian clusterfail.


The guy had a very, very good alibi and there's not been any inconsistencies found in it, as far as I can see.


Quite right. Russ Faria's alibi was indeed solid and there were no inconsistencies found in it.

Between 5 and 6 p.m., there is CCTV video confirming his presence at a gas station where he gassed up his vehicle, CCTV video confirming his presence at another gas station where he stopped to purchase cigarettes; store records confirming his presence at a "Country and Feed" store where he purchased an oversized bag of dog food (as his wife had asked him to do via text earlier in the day), and CCTV video confirming his presence at a QuikTrip where he purchased iced tea.

Then, there were four witnesses, all normal and decent people with no motive or reason to lie and certainly no motive or reason to participate in or cover up a murder, all of whom confirmed Mr. Faria's presence at a house in O'Fallon, Missouri from about 6 p.m. through 9 p.m. for their regular Tuesday "game night".

Then, there was a receipt from an Arby's where he stopped on his way home to purchase food that he ate on the way home. The receipt was stapled to the bag, which was crumpled up in his vehicle and found by police. It was time stamped 9:09 p.m., and the location in O'Fallon is about 30 minutes from the Faria home outside of Troy, Missouri. This means that Russ Faria got home at around 9:39 give or take a few minutes, depending on clocks not being synchronized and the vagaries of traffic, etc. He called 911 at about 9:40.

There were also cell phone records from his phone that confirmed all of the above (phone calls, texts, and data as the phone pinged various towers in complete agreement with the times and routes that he had given -- there were multiple towers at multiple locations, since it is as mentioned about a 30 minute drive from the Faria house to the game night house, and the cell records all matched up as well.

The prosecution did not put even the slightest little dent in that body of evidence.


What's their timeline? They don't even seem to have established a TOD.


Eventually - but not until after all of the trial evidence had been heard at trial - the prosecution alleged that the murder occurred between 7:20 p.m. and 9:40 p.m.; they only did this in the jury instructions at the end of the trial, though, and it appears that the jury didn't even notice. It appears to me that they did this because (a) they were required by law to provide a time frame but they resisted up until the very end; and (b) they wanted to make the time frame one that would (appear to) exclude Pam Hupp (but it doesn't exclude her; it does, however, exclude Russ Faria).


I can't even work out how the prosecution thinks that he did it, to be honest.


Neither could the prosecution. I can only surmise that they had a "feeling" that he "must" be guilty, developed tunnel vision, and when there was no evidence whatsoever of Mr. Faria having committed the crime, they were too proud, too obtuse, too obstinate, and too stupid to back down from their "feeling".

This led to them making up a ludicrous conspiracy theory out of whole cloth - not until closing argument, mind you - in which the prosecutor Askey suggested that the four eyewitnesses were actually co-conspirators; that Mr. Faria had indeed run his errands between 5 p.m. and 6 p.m. as evidenced by the videos and the store records showing the dog food purchase but he only did so to establish a false alibi, then went to Michael and Angelia's house where game night was held, left his phone there, then at some point drove the ~30 minutes back home, stripped down naked, raped (even though she was fully clothed and there were no indications of any sort of sexual assault) and murdered his wife, then cleaned up (even though there was no evidence of any clean up), showered to get rid of blood that would inevitably have been on his body had he done this (even though the police took the drains apart and there was not only no blood, but they were dry from lack of recent use), put the same clothes back on (so that they would match the clothes he was wearing when his image had been captured on the CCTV videos), then one of the co-conspirators in O'Fallon went to the Arby's there in order to get a receipt to seal the "false" alibi, then the co-conspirator drove the ~30 minutes to Mr. Faria's house to bring him his phone back and put the crumpled up bag in Russell's vehicle, I presume, and then he called the police.

I kid you not.

She also out and out lied about the trial evidence in her closing, but that actually pales in comparison to this steaming pile of crap that she delivered.

Still not sure how the prosecution was allowed to argue their conspiracy theory in closing. Doesn't that break some kind of rules?


It certainly would not have been permitted in my jurisdiction, or anywhere else in Canada, or, I dare say, anywhere else that requires an accused to be given a fair trial.

Here, a stunt like that would break several rules of evidence, break the rule in Brown v Dunn, violate an accused's Charter rights, and would result in an immediate mistrial. It would also breach the Rules of Professional Conduct that lawyers are required to abide by, and I would also expect the lawyer who pulled the stunt to be dressed down pretty harshly by the trial judge.




Yes, indeed. :) I did download and read the transcripts from that site. The pre-trial motions and the trial are quite astounding to read. In my view, this is one of the more egregious and shameful wrongful convictions that I've seen in recent years.
 
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Good summation LashL!

One thing that strikes me about Pam Hupp - if she did it, she is brazen as you like. And she must have been thanking her lucky stars that the Lincoln County police and prosecutor are as stupid and corrupt as they are.
 
One thing that strikes me about Pam Hupp - if she did it, she is brazen as you like. And she must have been thanking her lucky stars that the Lincoln County police and prosecutor are as stupid and corrupt as they are.


Well, Hupp has certainly established that she is, indeed, pretty brazen. She is on video lying through her teeth repeatedly. She is on video claiming that Betsy wanted to sign over a life insurance policy to her because Betsy thought that Russ and the girls would "blow through" the money, so Betsy wanted Hupp to have control of the money so that Hupp could ensure that the girls got it when they were older. She is on video claiming that she had put the money into a trust for the girls but that was confirmed to be a lie, and she even admitted that in a later video. Even the police saw how bad the optics of that were and tried to talk her into putting the money into a trust before the trial because it was going to look really, really bad if she didn't.

She claimed that she still had 2/3 of the money ($100k) for the girls, and claimed that she was using the other 1/3 ($50k) to help the family of a different "friend" who was also dying of cancer.

She ended up putting some of the money into a trust a few days before the trial; then testified at trial that the money was in a trust for them, and testified at trial that Betsy signed the policy over to Hupp because Betsy wanted the girls to have it. After the trial, she promptly revoked the trust and the girls never got a penny of it.

Then, the girls sued Hupp in civil court to recover the $150k, and she told completely different stories, now claiming that Betsy didn't want the girls to have the money, didn't want her mother or her sisters to have it, but just wanted Hupp to have it. Uh huh. Hupp claimed that it was her money, Betsy wanted her to have it, and she could do whatever she wants with it. She did all this blatant lying knowing full well that she had given entirely contradictory stories on video and under oath previously, and she did it without batting an eye.

The court did end up freezing Hupp's assets pending the outcome of the civil action. It was scheduled for trial but Hupp asked for an adjournment, which was apparently granted. I have no idea when that trial will be heard.

Oh, and the family of Hupp's other "friend" never received a penny from Hupp either. That was just another tall tale by Hupp; she just pocketed the money for herself.

So, yeah, she's pretty brazen all right.

That said, I do not know, of course, whether Hupp (and her husband, Mark) killed Betsy Faria. They are certainly excellent suspects, but I do not think that there will ever be sufficient evidence to prove that they did it because the police leapt quickly to a faulty conclusion, deciding that Russ must be guilty; this tunnel vision meant that they never looked at the evidence objectively, and they closed their minds to the evidence of an infinitely more likely and infinitely more plausible scenario. As a result, they didn't secure the Hupps' clothing, didn't obtain the Hupps' phone records, didn't search the Hupps' vehicles or home, etc., so any evidence that might have been available at the time will be long gone, no doubt. Then Askey compounded the police errors with what appears to be deliberate prosecutorial misconduct.

Meanwhile, an innocent man is in jail for a crime he didn't commit against a victim he loved.

On the up side, though, as you noted at the outset of this thread, the appeal court has granted Russ Faria the right to bring a motion for a new trial, though, so here's hoping the lower court grants that motion rather than making him wait for the hearing of his pending appeal. The wording of the higher court order suggests that it does expect the lower court to grant him a new trial. So, here's hoping!
 
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If they can get another judge and prosecutor, I give it 80% that charges will get dismissed at some point. There are bad cases and there is worse.


I hope so; I agree that there are bad cases and then there are ludicrous cases; this one is in the ludicrous category.

ETA: And I think that if the court grants the motion for a new trial, they would pretty much have to get a different judge and different prosecutor, given the circumstances of this case.


You discussed Canada above but they have their own travesties. Look at Nichole "Nyki" Kish.

The judges decision on her appeal was basically just rubber stamped.
http://www.grahamlawyerblog.com/201...ns-behind-bars-after-questionable-conviction/


Oh, I know. I was involved with the Kish case at the time, was not impressed with Nordheimer's judgment, nor with the C.A. panel that upheld it.

FTR, I was not suggesting that Canada has a perfect justice system, not by a longshot. I was specifically discussing the rules of evidence, the Charter, and the Rules of Professional Conduct that would never have permitted the ridiculous crap that went on in Russ Faria's trial.
 
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I hope so; I agree that there are bad cases and then there are ludicrous cases; this one is in the ludicrous category.

ETA: And I think that if the court grants the motion for a new trial, they would pretty much have to get a different judge and different prosecutor, given the circumstances of this case.

That said about my previous statement, nobody ever woke up with the Norfolk Four and that is in the the ludicrous category as well.
 
Hasn't Hupp perjured herself somewhere along the line?
It's not murder, by any means, but I find it hard to believe that she hasn't given the police an absolutely stonewall case.
 
Hasn't Hupp perjured herself somewhere along the line?
It's not murder, by any means, but I find it hard to believe that she hasn't given the police an absolutely stonewall case.

I asked if you would convict based on the evidence and you wrote no. . . .
Related to that, let us say that the family sued her for wrongful death in civil court (like against OJ), would you vote guilty?
 
I asked if you would convict based on the evidence and you wrote no. . . .
Related to that, let us say that the family sued her for wrongful death in civil court (like against OJ), would you vote guilty?

The perjury that I referred to was in relation to the insurance money.
She's made repeated claims about it in separate court cases and they're contradictory.
I don't see how that's not perjury.

I wouldn't vote guilty in a wrongful death suit, as I don't think that the evidence is there to prove that Hupp either did it or was heavily involved.
Do I suspect that she was? Of course.
That's a long way from having substantial evidence implicating her in the crime, though.
As LashL has pointed out, it's probably not going to happen because of the bungled investigation.
 
I have never doubted that the Faria case would be kicked back. I very much doubt that there will be a retrial when it is. Neither do I expect charges to be filed against Pam Hupp.

Whilst I cannot fathom how a jury would have convicted him in the first trial - I would have expected that at least one juror would have noticed that the PA did not produce any evidence of the grand conspiracy that had to be in place if Faria was in fact guilty - I am astounded at the behavior of D.A. Askey and, more so, Judge Mennemeyer.
 
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How could you tell? ;)

Wow, great summaries.

I myself had trouble believing what I was reading about (and from!) this Pam Hupp character, what she did seems to make little sense if she actually murdered anyone, or was involved in any way, because it (should have) made her the number one suspect!
 

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