Turn in a gun, get a tax break.

[Ranb]

http://thehill.com/regulation/legislation/237983-dems-would-pay-gun-owners-to-turn-in-assault-rifles

Gun owners would receive tax breaks for voluntarily turning in high-powered assault rifles under new legislation proposed Monday.

The Support Assault Firearm Elimination and Education of our (SAFER) Streets Act expected to be reintroduced next week by Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-Conn.) would provide gun owners with an incentive to turn in their firearms to local police departments.

Waste of money most likely.

“Assault weapons are not about hunting, or even self-defense,” DeLauro said. “There is no reason on earth, other than to kill as many people as possible in as short a time as possible, that anyone needs a gun designed for a battlefield.”

DeLauro probably thinks her constituents are idiots. I own several AR's that were previously classified by the feds as assault weapons. I know that they can be an excellent choice for defense or hunting in some cases.

The legislation would provide up to $2,000 in tax credits for gun owners who voluntarily hand over assault weapons to their local police departments.

I wonder if I could turn in the stripped lower receiver (about $200) and get the two grand tax break. I could then go to the gun store and buy another stripped lower and reassemble the rifle.

She said the bill would help “get more assault weapons off the streets."

I doubt she has ever seen an assault weapon on the street. People bored with their guns might collect them from out of the gun cabinet or under the mattress and turn them in.

ETA; Here is the bill; http://delauro.house.gov/images/pdf/SAFERStreetsAct114th.pdf

Get up to $2000 tax credit, 1/2 in the year filed and the rest the next year.
One gun only.
There is a list of guns similar to the AWB of 1994 that qualify.
Better hurry up, you have two years to get your assault weapons off the street, then no more tax break for you.

Ranb

 

[Polaris]

I wonder what her thoughts are on Mauser KAR-98s or Enfields.

Or for that matter, what she'd say if someone asked her if there were "low-powered assault rifles".

 

[Ranb]

High power assault weapon is a catch phrase. I doubt she knows much about guns at all. Given her birther style claim that “There is no reason on earth, other than to kill as many people as possible in as short a time as possible, that anyone needs a gun designed for a battlefield.”, I think someone is doing her thinking for her and she is just along for the ride to troll for more votes come election year.

After taking another look at the list, most of those guns that are in civilian hands were not designed for the battlefield as they are not select fire or generally used by the military. They were designed or re-designed for civilian use. I know my AR's and AK were.

Ranb

 

[Emily's Cat]

http://thehill.com/regulation/legislation/237983-dems-would-pay-gun-owners-to-turn-in-assault-rifles

The Support Assault Firearm Elimination and Education of our (SAFER) Streets Act

Hmm... wouldn't that be "SAFEESA"?

DeLauro probably thinks her constituents are idiots. I own several AR's that were previously classified by the feds as assault weapons. I know that they can be an excellent choice for defense or hunting in some cases.

I know of a handful of people who actively hunt with ARs. We only hunt watermelons and the occasional clay pigeon, though .

I wonder if I could turn in the stripped lower receiver (about $200) and get the two grand tax break. I could then go to the gun store and buy another stripped lower and reassemble the rifle.

A while back, they did a firearm buy-back thing with the cops here. They collected a whole bunch of worthless guns, and waaaaay overpaid for them. Nobody turned in their nice pistols or rifles. IT was a complete waste of money. I like the idea of turning in your receiver though - that's good old-fashioned american opportunism right there!

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I turn my stuff, I get a plenary indulgence.

 

[Polaris]

I turn my stuff, I get a plenary indulgence.

I would hope you'd get more than just one for that Ma Deuce you say you have!

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I would hope you'd get more than just one for that Ma Deuce you say you have!

Oh, I have a **** load of sins to cancel out.

I wonder if cannons count.

 

[Ranb]

I wonder if cannons count.

Doubt it. Didn't see DD's on the list or muzzle loading devices of any size. Going to have to sell it for scrap or to another cannon nut.

Ranb

 

[plague311]

I also think we should insult this person that is trying to do something positive because it doesn't align with what I think is....GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY GUNS!!!!

...er...sorry.

Anyway, if they're laying under the bed, or sitting someplace where intruders, kids, or anyone else can get their hands on them, then I applaud this action. Hopefully enough people will take advantage and guns that families don't really want\need will stay out of the hands of criminals. After all, that's what this is all about, keeping guns away from those who shouldn't have them.

I'll let you all get back to insulting the person trying to do something to get surplus guns under control. Degrading her only makes sense in this case.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Doubt it. Didn't see DD's on the list or muzzle loading devices of any size. Going to have to sell it for scrap or to another cannon nut.

Ranb

I think the carriage is worth more than the cannon, it was used on a US frigate during the War of 1812.

 

[Giz]

I also think we should insult this person that is trying to do something positive because it doesn't align with what I think is....GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY GUNS!!!!

...er...sorry.

Anyway, if they're laying under the bed, or sitting someplace where intruders, kids, or anyone else can get their hands on them, then I applaud this action. Hopefully enough people will take advantage and guns that families don't really want\need will stay out of the hands of criminals. After all, that's what this is all about, keeping guns away from those who shouldn't have them.

I'll let you all get back to insulting the person trying to do something to get surplus guns under control. Degrading her only makes sense in this case.

Oh well, if it's for the Childrenz!!! then I'm sure that all criticism, no matter how well founded, will cease immediately.

 

[Ranb]

I also think we should insult this person that is trying to do something positive because it doesn't align with what I think is....GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY GUNS!!!!

Representative DeLauro could have taken the high road and said something that made sense. Instead she decided to say something idiotic and assume that people were stupid enough to believe her. Why can't she be respectful? She is wasting her time with something that only feels good to a nut.

Ranb

 

[plague311]

Hmm... wouldn't that be "SAFEESA"?

Because that's way easier to remember.

I know of a handful of people who actively hunt with ARs. We only hunt watermelons and the occasional clay pigeon, though .

Good work, you actually proved her point. You aren't hunting, you're using them to shoot at ****. AR's can be used for hunting, no doubt. Any gun can be used for hunting; however, that doesn't mean there aren't better choices. Whether she's right or wrong, it can be her opinion. I'm sure she had no intention on going up against gun-know-it-all's that will contest what can and can't be done with a gun.

A while back, they did a firearm buy-back thing with the cops here. They collected a whole bunch of worthless guns, and waaaaay overpaid for them. Nobody turned in their nice pistols or rifles. IT was a complete waste of money. I like the idea of turning in your receiver though - that's good old-fashioned american opportunism right there!

Well, since you're anecdotal tale is obviously the end of the conversation then it's all good. Some say that even if they over paid getting guns off the streets could have saved a life, which isn't that far from the truth. Some even say that their programs were successful by their own terms.

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A few stories there of buy back programs that, at least those that held them, felt they were a success.

Seriously though, you guys don't have to waste your time replying to me. I don't understand, or really even care about guns. I just laugh at how pathetic it is that every time something is done with relation to getting guns off the streets there are always people that pop out to talk garbage. Like this person is forcing anyone to do anything, or even has any other intention than to just do some good.

Carry on though...

 

[plague311]

Representative DeLauro could have taken the high road and said something that made sense. Instead she decided to say something idiotic and assume that people were stupid enough to believe her. Why can't she be respectful? She is wasting her time with something that only feels good to a nut.

Ranb

You think it's idiotic, I don't agree. I think the more assault rifles that are off the street the better. That's my personal opinion, and I really don't care who agrees or disagrees with me. She's trying to do something good, get surplus weapons off of the street. If you have some inability to see beyond a statement she made to see the good that she's trying to do then the problem is yours, not hers.

 

[Ranb]

I know she is trying to do something good. But why coat it with an insult? If she knew anything about guns she would be embarrassed to claim that assault weapons (all of them or just some?) are not suitable for defense or hunting. Why is she behaving like the people reading the article are complete idiots? Perhaps she was misquoted by the reporter? Maybe, maybe not. But her claims are the same drivel that has been repeated the last two decades by others who clearly had no idea what they were talking about.

If she really wants this bill to pass and is not just pandering, then she can wise up and stop acting like an idiot.

Ranb

 

[Polaris]

Good work, you actually proved her point. You aren't hunting, you're using them to shoot at ****. AR's can be used for hunting, no doubt. Any gun can be used for hunting; however, that doesn't mean there aren't better choices. Whether she's right or wrong, it can be her opinion. I'm sure she had no intention on going up against gun-know-it-all's that will contest what can and can't be done with a gun.

Only with guns is knowing more about the subject in question than not seen as a bad thing.

It's certainly not a good thing when an elected official wastes public time to spout ignorant nonsense in an attempt to waste public money to solve a virtually non-existent problem while there are more important things to do.

 

[lobosrul]

Wow this seems like a great money making scheme. Buy a bunch of cheap junk and get a huge tax refund. Dunno why anyone would be against this. Or is it a limit of 1 per "customer"?

My AR-15 has never been taken hunting and never ever will. I don't see why I or anyone needs to justify hunting as why they own a gun. If anyone wants to give me 2 grand for it though, they can have it, I'll go buy another the next day!

Hmm... wouldn't that be "SAFEESA"?


I know of a handful of people who actively hunt with ARs. We only hunt watermelons and the occasional clay pigeon, though .

I hope you don't go clay pigeon shooting with an AR-15! .223 fired up in the air has a range of around 2 miles. Unless its a rabbit thrower on the ground, I suppose that's OK.

 

[casebro]

Tax credit not tax deduction. So it's cost we the taxpayer $2,000 each for $600 guns. I'm going to go stock up. I've got no income, so don't need any deductions, but I can get a credit deposited directly to my account.

Does her bill fund it too? If it works at all, it will mean millions gone from the treasury. Any chance of THAT happening?

 

[plague311]

I know she is trying to do something good. But why coat it with an insult? If she knew anything about guns she would be embarrassed to claim that assault weapons (all of them or just some?) are not suitable for defense or hunting. Why is she behaving like the people reading the article are complete idiots? Perhaps she was misquoted by the reporter? Maybe, maybe not. But her claims are the same drivel that has been repeated the last two decades by others who clearly had no idea what they were talking about.

If she really wants this bill to pass and is not just pandering, then she can wise up and stop acting like an idiot.

Ranb

I don't know how many times assault weapons are used to defend ones self against crime. I can imagine that it would be extremely rare. Why do I say that? Because they're bulky, I would imagine most people keep them locked away, and firing off a series of shots in rapid succession could be dangerous to those you're trying to defend.

Pistols, I would assume, are the best for defense. That's completely just my assumption based on what I would use if I were to ever, for some messed up reason, want a gun in my house. I don't, and never will, and I've never, ever, EVER even found myself close to being in a situation where I have wanted or needed a gun to defend myself. I guess I'm just awesome like that.

You can call me idiotic too because, despite my family being die-hard hunters, none of them own an assault rifle. I know this because I just asked, and when I say they hunt a lot, that's an understatement. Minnesotans love to hunt, and they travel around to Elk hunt among several other animals. My uncle laughed at me, and said "I'm good enough to hit with one bullet, I don't need to pepper shots with an under powered AR. I hunt big game, those guns are useless to me."

Again, continue to degrade her and perceive every statement that people say as an insult. She's not the one that looks fickle, at least not to me. Those that need to turn every act against guns into some personal insult come off as ridiculous in my eyes. To each their own. One man's trash and all that...

 

[Ranb]

I don't know how many times assault weapons are used to defend ones self against crime. I can imagine that it would be extremely rare.

You say their use is rare; that is fine. DeLauro is claiming an absolute by saying "other than to kill as many people as possible in as short a time as possible".

You can call me idiotic too because, despite my family being die-hard hunters, none of them own an assault rifle.

That is up to you.

My uncle laughed at me, and said "I'm good enough to hit with one bullet, I don't need to pepper shots with an under powered AR. I hunt big game, those guns are useless to me."

I'd bet your uncle understands peppering is not required just because it can happen.

Why is an AR under powered? I have one chambered in 458 socom. While it is not a common caliber, it is readily available to anyone who wants one, even in CA if it is put on a legal lower receiver. I can get them in 50 caliber also, but then they are rather cumbersome. An AR-15 is just fine for large game in the USA. Why don't you understand this? Or perhaps you can explain why it isn't?

Again, continue to degrade her and perceive every statement that people say as an insult.

Yes, she sounds like a complete idiot even if her intensions are good.

She's not the one that looks fickle, at least not to me. Those that need to turn every act against guns into some personal insult come off as ridiculous in my eyes. To each their own. One man's trash and all that...

Not sure if she is fickle. She sounds stupid or at least acts if the rest of us are.

Ranb