Latest Bigfoot "evidence"

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ChrisBFRPKY said:
Pics and video are of more value to an investigation than an eye witness account. But as far as proving Bigfoot exists, without biological evidence both are of equal value. Chris B.
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But you admit that it's all worthless unless it can be biologically evidenced with something more concrete? So, why do you even spend/waste so much of your life investigating something for which you admit has nothing whatsoever to back it up?

The irony here, is that if Bigfoot were even remotely real, like other mundane creatures, it'd photograph just the same as those other mundane creatures. There'd be no conspiracy regarding whether the picture was a hoax or not, because we'd have many of them to reference and compare to. Not only that, we'd have actual evidence, as we do for any other mundane creature that actually exists.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Why? I saw only pics of known species. Is there a cryptid whale represented at any of the links you provided? Chris B.
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Wait, I thought people who saw BF were 'knowers', wouldn't that imply that BF is a known species?
 
Gilbert Syndrome said:
But you admit that it's all worthless unless it can be biologically evidenced with something more concrete? So, why do you even spend/waste so much of your life investigating something for which you admit has nothing whatsoever to back it up?

The irony here, is that if Bigfoot were even remotely real, like other mundane creatures, it'd photograph just the same as those other mundane creatures. There'd be no conspiracy regarding whether the picture was a hoax or not, because we'd have many of them to reference and compare to. Not only that, we'd have actual evidence, as we do for any other mundane creature that actually exists.
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Now you're going off on a tangent. Of course nonbiological evidence of Bigfoot is important to those investigating the phenomenon. Study of tracks and reported/observed behaviors will eventually lead to biological evidence being gathered. That biological evidence , when presented will answer the question and will likely be worth something financially as well as scientifically.
Chris B.
 
Drewbot said:
Clearly this video is of no significance, because, hey, they could have faked it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg2hCuDy2wg
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And if habituators and multiple encounter tall tales were true, we would be seeing pieces of footage like this but with bigfoots as stars.

And bigfoot researchers would have photographic catalogues of bigfoot specimens.

^ that was the cue for someone posting a collection of blurred blobs.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
I see, so now you wish to turn the conversation from pics to videos and you want to include ALL of Bigfoot claims in general.

You can certainly do that as that is why the debate continues. No biological proof of existence has been presented and until then Bigfoot will always remain a mystery for the skeptical. Isn't that where we are today?
Chris B.
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You're avoiding addressing your own point: a claim is nothing without biological evidence. A claim. Not a photo, or a video, but a claim. Your words. No bigfoot claim has any supporting biological evidence. Therefore, all claims are nothing while this absence of biological evidence persists.

This is not mysterious. This is black and white.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Now you're going off on a tangent. Of course nonbiological evidence of Bigfoot is important to those investigating the phenomenon. Study of tracks and reported/observed behaviors will eventually lead to biological evidence being gathered. That biological evidence , when presented will answer the question and will likely be worth something financially as well as scientifically.
Chris B.
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Well, my question wasn't about the importance of such unverifiable evidence, but the worthiness of it. Since, as you admit, 100% of current Bigfoot evidence cannot be scientifically backed up with biological evidence, then is any of it even worthy of an investigation to begin with? A supposedly real creature, who has supposedly existed since, well, since before the never-never, has left absolutely no biological evidence behind in its wake...seems like a legend to me.
 
dmaker said:
You're avoiding addressing your own point: a claim is nothing without biological evidence. A claim. Not a photo, or a video, but a claim. Your words. No bigfoot claim has any supporting biological evidence. Therefore, all claims are nothing while this absence of biological evidence persists.

This is not mysterious. This is black and white.
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Avoiding addressing my point? What forum are you reading? The lack of biological evidence equals the lack of scientific proof of Bigfoot. That's exactly where we are today. I cannot be any clearer. Chris B.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Avoiding addressing my point? What forum are you reading? The lack of biological evidence equals the lack of scientific proof of Bigfoot. That's exactly where we are today. I cannot be any clearer. Chris B.
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So, we're at the exact same position that we'd be at if there had been absolutely no Bigfoot research whatsoever.
 
Gilbert Syndrome said:
Well, my question wasn't about the importance of such unverifiable evidence, but the worthiness of it. Since, as you admit, 100% of current Bigfoot evidence cannot be scientifically backed up with biological evidence, then is any of it even worthy of an investigation to begin with? A supposedly real creature, who has supposedly existed since, well, since before the never-never, has left absolutely no biological evidence behind in its wake...seems like a legend to me.
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I'm certain the creatures have left some sort of biological evidence behind, it has yet to be found by those looking though. Doesn't mean none will turn up.
It just means those who are actually looking have not aquired the knowledge or skill required to collect it. Chris B.
 
Gilbert Syndrome said:
So, we're at the exact same position that we'd be at if there had been absolutely no Bigfoot research whatsoever.
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As far as having a scientific specimen on file, there's not one yet that I'm aware of. That doesn't mean there aren't any specimens to find though.

So the answer is to stop looking? Well, that would kinda rule out finding any new stuff in general. If we think we have all the answers and know everything there is to know about our planet, then sure we could stop looking for anything unknown. But we don't have all the answers and we don't know everything there is to know about the life on our planet. So, let's keep looking until we get to that point shall we? Chris B.
 
This latest exchange reminds of of a stundie-winning post that asserted "you can't find something unless you are looking for it." Yeah, you can't find bigfoot scat or carcasses because you don't have the knowledge or skill. That is a pretty insane claim.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
I'm certain the creatures have left some sort of biological evidence behind, it has yet to be found by those looking though. Doesn't mean none will turn up.
It just means those who are actually looking have not aquired the knowledge or skill required to collect it. Chris B.
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Does that mean that every single Bigfoot-Hunter, such as yourself, lacks the skill and knowledge required to achieve their goal?
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
As far as having a scientific specimen on file, there's not one yet that I'm aware of. That doesn't mean there aren't any specimens to find though.

So the answer is to stop looking? Well, that would kinda rule out finding any new stuff in general. If we think we have all the answers and know everything there is to know about our planet, then sure we could stop looking for anything unknown. But we don't have all the answers and we don't know everything there is to know about the life on our planet. So, let's keep looking until we get to that point shall we? Chris B.
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I'm quite obviously not talking about giving up on discovery... But when does that moment come when you have to go "ok, I've been at this for years now, and I've found nothing, they mustn't be out there. Next...?"
 
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