DOJ: Ferguson PD descrimination against blacks is routine

They mentioned the "5 second rule" quite a bit. I either had forgotten about it or had never heard of it.

Federal judges tosses ’5 second rule’ being used to police Ferguson protests
In the first formal blow to the policing tactics being used in Ferguson, Mo., a federal judge ruled Monday that the “5 second rule” — a policy being enforced by some officers that required protesters to be moving at all times during demonstrations or be subject to arrest — was unconstitutional and violated the protesters’ First Amendment rights.
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From the link:
In mid-August, some officers began instructing demonstrators of a new, so-called “five-second rule,” under which protesters were instructed that they must remain moving at all times and that they could not remain still for more than five seconds...“The practice of requiring peaceful demonstrators and others to walk, rather than stand still, violates the constitution,” U.S. District Court Judge Catherine Perry wrote in the ruling — which clarifies that police are still free to use any number of other tactics to manage the crowds that have gathered to protest each night since the Aug. 9 shooting of Michael Brown.
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Good for the judge but sad that the protesters have been putting up with this since August. I wonder how many were arrested for this 'violation?' The article doesn't say.
 
newyorkguy said:
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Good for the judge but sad that the protesters have been putting up with this since August. I wonder how many were arrested for this 'violation?' The article doesn't say.
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The article was from October, presumably around the same time as the ruling. So, the protesters wouldn't have been putting up with it for more than two months. It's still bad, but it's not almost eight months of bad.
 
Okay thanks.

One issue that seems to be emerging from last summer's events is a critical eye on how police departments police low-income neighborhoods. An issue that seems to have as much to do with class as race.

On a PBS newscast a veteran police officer said that when officers pull over a well-dressed man in a late model car in an upscale neighborhood they are going to be a little more careful about how they act than when they pull over someone who is obviously of limited means. Cops know the way the system works and they know if they get into a spat with a guy who turns out to be a lawyer or plays golf with the police chief they can be in deep trouble. If Joe the forklift driver from Home Depot wants to complain the cops were abusive, the way the system is setup -- remember the video of people being roughed up and/or arrested for going into a police station and asking if they have a form for making a complaint against an officer? -- and they know that the average guy is likely to get the runaround.

This has been going on for years but maybe we've finally reached a point as a society where this is going to be questioned.

Do all citizens have the right to be treated decently by police? When police violate someone's rights even in a minor way should they be routinely disciplined if the person complains?
 
Charming group :mad:

Ferguson releases racist emails detailed in Justice Department report – read th documents

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...erguson-releases-racist-emails-read-documents

Previously undisclosed messages and full copies of racist emails were released by the city of Ferguson on Friday. The documents were referenced in a report by the US Department of Justice that led to the dismissal of a series of senior city officials last month
 
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KatieG said:
Charming group :mad:

Ferguson releases racist emails detailed in Justice Department report – read th documents

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...erguson-releases-racist-emails-read-documents

Previously undisclosed messages and full copies of racist emails were released by the city of Ferguson on Friday. The documents were referenced in a report by the US Department of Justice that led to the dismissal of a series of senior city officials last month
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That's some disgusting ****, right there! I got a formal write-up (to the personnel file) once for verbally thrashing the sender of a similarly bigoted email to some of those. I'd be curious to know if there are any records of one cop... just one... or one city official or any recipient standing up to the sender and saying "No. This is ugly and bigoted."
 
Foolmewunz said:
That's some disgusting ****, right there! I got a formal write-up (to the personnel file) once for verbally thrashing the sender of a similarly bigoted email to some of those. I'd be curious to know if there are any records of one cop... just one... or one city official or any recipient standing up to the sender and saying "No. This is ugly and bigoted."
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There was one case where someone forwarded an email then regretted it, which is hardly the same as complaining about racial bias by the second-highest ranking officer in the force, and one of the four sergeants in the force.

49 We did find one instance in 2012 in which the City Manager forwarded an email that played upon stereotypes of Latinos, but within minutes of sending it, sent another email to the recipient in which he stated he had not seen the offensive part of the email and apologized for the “inappropriate and offensive” message. Police and court staff took no such corrective action, and indeed in many instances expressed amusement at the offensive correspondence.
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Whilst searching for that, I thought this was worth highlighting :mad:
The email reports that the defendant, a black male, was booked into jail. This email does not provide the full context of the circumstances that led to the 10-day jail sentence and further information is required to assess the appropriateness of that order. Nonetheless, the email suggests that the court jailed a defendant for refusing to answer questions, which raises significant Fifth Amendment concerns. There is also no indication as to whether the defendant was represented or, if not, was allowed or afforded representation to defend against the contempt charge and 10-day sentence.
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Mike! said:
Today is election day in Ferguson, we'll see if all the voter registration efforts were worth it. Will the citizens take control of their community, or will it remain, business as usual?
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I gotta believe this next bunch will be more...uh...
something protesters want.
 
Mike! said:
Today is election day in Ferguson, we'll see if all the voter registration efforts were worth it. Will the citizens take control of their community, or will it remain, business as usual?
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How about both? This is basic police procedures after all a simple election isn't going to change that.
 
Mike! said:
Today is election day in Ferguson, we'll see if all the voter registration efforts were worth it. Will the citizens take control of their community, or will it remain, business as usual?
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But voting does no good in a Evil Captialistic system......
 
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