Merged Continuation Part 2: Discussion of the George Zimmerman case

Wow...just...

Someone please tell me that's a comedy troupe or something doing an act, because, just...

Not that we all haven't seen religion being used to rationalize everything from stealing cookies to why child soldiers are forced to rape and mutilated villages in Africa. Still, it makes my head spin every time.
 
White guy...gun owner...shoots an evil black guy..."God's plan"...victim of Obama administration...

Everything Fox "News" requires.

Sean Hannity here we come!
 
What a clown. It's up to god, he is just along for the ride.

I guess that's the only way he can live with his actions.
 
The actual interview with ...his divorce lawyer(?) is on the lawyer's website.

My favorite bit:
For example my last name carrying a Caucasian German connotation definitely helped them portray me as a racist white man when in reality I am you know my mother’s Peruvian my father is American and I was raised by my mother and my grandmother both fully Hispanic. So I’m by no means was I ever portrayed as a white racist prior to this but they used certain aspects of character, characteristics of my personality against me.
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...Barack Hussein Obama...
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I think Zimmerman's right that Obama shouldn't have inflamed things by making emotive comments like "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon". Even if the remark was taken out of context (as I recall people arguing at the time), he should've realized that it would be taken out of context.

But yeah, Zimmerman really needs to stop suggesting what happened was "God's plan". I think he's just really stupid - no one with half a brain would keep repeating that. Even if they thought it, most people wouldn't actually say it because they'd realize how badly it would come across. It's like Zimmerman just has no awareness how he sounds.
 
katy_did said:
I think Zimmerman's right that Obama shouldn't have inflamed things by making emotive comments like "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon". Even if the remark was taken out of context (as I recall people arguing at the time), he should've realized that it would be taken out of context.
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He didn't really inflame things, though. The situation was already a national media nightmare. He was expected to comment because he's the most powerful black man in the country and he did, without assuming a poor, put-upon Hispanic man's guilt.

Perhaps most importantly, the murderer was acquitted, so what's he complaining about?
 
Babbylonian said:
He didn't really inflame things, though. The situation was already a national media nightmare. He was expected to comment because he's the most powerful black man in the country and he did, without assuming a poor, put-upon Hispanic man's guilt.

Perhaps most importantly, the murderer was acquitted, so what's he complaining about?
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It was a pretty volatile situation with people protesting though, one which could easily have escalated into violence. Obama's remark is an obvious reference to the assumption at the time that Zimmerman 'profiled' Trayvon because he was black. Even if that might well be true, it was still something which should've been left to the court case, not commented on by politicians.

(Being anti-death penalty myself, I also couldn't help noticing that Obama commenting on this case - probably before Zimmerman was even charged - was strikingly different to his reaction when asked for comment on Troy Davis' execution, where he somehow managed to stay silent. Guess Davis didn't look as much like his hypothetical son).
 
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In the screed, he repeatedly complains about being "prosecuted by the federal government", which did not happen. Pretty much says it all right there.
 
katy_did said:
It was a pretty volatile situation with people protesting though, one which could easily have escalated into violence. Obama's remark is an obvious reference to the assumption at the time that Zimmerman 'profiled' Trayvon because he was black. Even if that might well be true, it was still something which should've been left to the court case, not commented on by politicians.
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It was left to the court. Why should politicians (of any stripe) be subject to some sort of gag rule when it comes to the events of the day? If something is leading the news every day, it would be stranger if politicians didn't talk about it at some point.

As for the potential to escalate into violence, exactly what did President Obama say that a reasonable person could think would incite violence? It seems like you're searching for ways to justify a position that makes no sense.

Something tragic happens, the President of the United States comments on how he feels about that tragedy, and doing so is somehow irresponsible? It's utter nonsense.
 
George Zimmerman, logician.

katy_did said:
I think Zimmerman's right that Obama shouldn't have inflamed things by making emotive comments like "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon". Even if the remark was taken out of context (as I recall people arguing at the time), he should've realized that it would be taken out of context.
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Nope; it was all apart of God's plan. I wonder if God smokes a lot of cigars, or if he's just planning to smoke one big one, because he's gotta love it when a plan comes together.
 
Checkmite said:
Bwahahahahaha.
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Babbylonian said:
It was left to the court. Why should politicians (of any stripe) be subject to some sort of gag rule when it comes to the events of the day? If something is leading the news every day, it would be stranger if politicians didn't talk about it at some point.

As for the potential to escalate into violence, exactly what did President Obama say that a reasonable person could think would incite violence? It seems like you're searching for ways to justify a position that makes no sense.

Something tragic happens, the President of the United States comments on how he feels about that tragedy, and doing so is somehow irresponsible? It's utter nonsense.
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I just think it was irresponsible to comment before Zimmerman had even been charged, and without knowing the facts. He wasn't commenting on "how he felt about the tragedy", he was commenting on Zimmerman allegedly profiling Trayvon. There are plenty of other cases on which Obama manages not to comment - cynically, I wonder whether choosing to comment on this case may have been in part a reaction to the criticism which followed his failure to speak out over Troy Davies, which happened just a few months earlier. Refusing to comment on one politically tricky case (on which I'm sure he had strong views) while making comments which were very much aligned with the popular mood of the time in another smacks of cowardice to me. And I'm an Obama supporter.

Zimmerman is an idiot, but he's right on this point.

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Nope; it was all apart of God's plan. I wonder if God smokes a lot of cigars, or if he's just planning to smoke one big one, because he's gotta love it when a plan comes together.
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Lol. :D

Well yeah, someone should really put it to Zimmerman that Obama speaking out was also part of God's plan, and if he wants to complain about it he should take it up with him.
 
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Zimmerman is a tool. A wedge, the simplest of all tools. That said, Yesterday on a local radio talk show, an elderly man stated Zimmerman was told by an officer on the non emergency 9-1-1 call that he should stay in his car. I have heard this before and it reminds me of hands up, don't shoot.
We don't need you to do that does not equal an order to stay in your car, but that is what is will be repeated over and over.
 
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