Lord Language Resurrection.

[erwinl]

The model of EU began to work worse and worse from first 10 - 12 members.Now with 28 members it works very bad.
The model of my union does not depend from the number of equal members because all decision making processes depend from math statistics laws and the laws of creative and anonymity communication between authors and experts.
All developed and developing countries can be the equal members of my union.

The EU is working pretty good at the moment. The euro might struggle a bit, but the EU as a whole does pretty well.
At least we're not subject to some technocratic horror as your proposal.

 

[Nationalcosmopolitan]

Who are you to tell me what I can and can't say? Remember your place; it's not to be the arbiter of what gets posted.

It seems to me that even the 1st step of my diet could strengthen your nervous system.

 

[Nationalcosmopolitan]

My point, taken from Ingersoll, is that the Torah is a relic of primitive barbarism, and can not be taken as a guide to action in a modern society. Your reply doesn't deal in any way with this. Do you defend the imposition of laws derived from the Torah? If you do, please say so; if you don't please say so.

Confucianism is probably not to be regarded as a religion, as nobody believes that the writings of Confucius are the word of God.

It is stupid to discuss the 4 greatest books with person who think that they are primitive and absolutely useless.
Even if you are right the everybody's reading of those stupid books will totally eliminate most kinds of hate between people.

 

[Border Reiver]

It is stupid to discuss the 4 greatest books with person who think that they are primitive and absolutely useless.

Even if you are right the everybody's reading of those stupid books will totally eliminate most kinds of hate between people.

I would think that the vast majority of people will find that only one of your "four greatest books" to be worthy of the title "greatest book" and then only because there has been a level of religious indoctrination and that they would find the other three useless. It is precisely the people who think that at least three of those books are of no value that you must convince that your idea is sound and worthy of following.

Frankly, hate between groups of people is going to continue so long as people are predisposed to tribalism - something about 9,000 years of city living hasn't done - some reading certainly isn't going to do it.

 

[Nay_Sayer]

It is stupid to discuss the 4 greatest books with person who think that they are primitive and absolutely useless.
Even if you are right the everybody's reading of those stupid books will totally eliminate most kinds of hate between people.

You keep using that term and it's still wrong.

No. your plan as amazing as you believe it to be will never, ever, ever eliminate the natural feelings of hate.

 

[Nationalcosmopolitan]

In your dystopia repetitive drink will be the norm, I have no doubt, like Winston Smith and his "Victory Gin" in 1984 or the "soma" in Brave New World.

If every man will have 26 weeks a year for not to do the things he doesn't want to do (as minimum) and for to do things he really want to do (as maximum) - the probability of repetitive will be very little.
It is not today's lifestyle when most people simply can't look on their life with the sober eyes.

By the way, how are you getting on with the response to my question about the occurrences of the word "Hebrew" in the Tanakh?

Once more.
There is no the word " עברית"
in Tanakh.
There is the word " יהודית" in Tanakh - the language of people of Judea.
In English transcription it sounds [ "ihudit"]

 

[Nationalcosmopolitan]

Don't be silly I don't agree with any of your principals I understand. I suspect I wouldn't agree with the ones that got mangled by Google Translate and came out unintelligible. Let's assume there are people who agree with even one of your points. Do they know they are part of your movement? If so, can you point to a single other person who has lifted a finger to help you in your project?

Only the persons that did not hear can't help to implement it.
All others surely will help.
It doesn't depend hey are enemies or friends of this project.

 

[Nationalcosmopolitan]

So is Craig B now one of your supporters because he likes one of your points?

All participants of this thread are really supporters of my project implementation.

 

[Nationalcosmopolitan]

In fact I don't agree with him on any points. NC wrote I think replacing false criminal democracy with real democracy is a good thing. But then when I read what NC meant by real democracy, which is sortition by some process, with the abolition of all popular political movements, and the suppression of voting or a democratic legislature, I realised that his definition of democracy is completely absurd and unacceptable.

So, no points of agreement.

It is impossible to establish democracy without state power according lottery on 1 cadence from candidates successfully tested.

 

[Agatha]

All participants of this thread are really supporters of my project implementation.

No. I am firmly opposed to your project and its implementation.

 

[Nationalcosmopolitan]

Could it be that billions of people, especially once they become aware of your idea of military/Cultural/economice imperialism will treat it as a badly thought out joke, rising barely to the level of something a child could dream up? And when combined with your diet, the derision just keeps coming.

If millions of people will know about my project, as minimum thousands of them for sure will try to realise it.

 

[Craig B]

It is stupid to discuss the 4 greatest books with person who think that they are primitive and absolutely useless.
Even if you are right the everybody's reading of those stupid books will totally eliminate most kinds of hate between people.

Will they? How nice. Meanwhile I quote Deuteronomy 20. (Next time I'll give you Numbers 31, so be warned.)

Deuteronomy 20:10 When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it. 11 And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, that all the people that is found therein shall be tributaries unto thee, and they shall serve thee. 12 And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it: 13 and when the Lord thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword: 14 but the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the Lord thy God hath given thee. 15 Thus shalt thou do unto all the cities which are very far off from thee, which are not of the cities of these nations. 16 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth: 17 but thou shalt utterly destroy them

This is not Judaism, of course, but primitive barbarism perpetrated by the Bronze Age ancestors of the peoples of the Near East. Who needs to be taught righteousness by this rubbish?

 

[Nationalcosmopolitan]

Or....Or they don't want to cripple their countries by burning all their money in a giant pile.

They want black and grey economy.
I want only white plan - market economy in which cash is forbidden and all finance streams are transparent.

I assume you want everyone to be on your diet so the two would eventually mix at some point.

My "To eat only in the 7th Day lifestyle" is absolutely compatible with ordinary "everyday eating lifestyles".
For example you can live some weeks in my lifestyle and some weeks in ordinary one.
You can live 6 weeks in "To eat only in the 7th Day lifestyle" and the 7th week in "to eat every day lifestyle".
If you prefer the probability laws upper the determination periodical laws with different cycles you can take 70 cards.
In 60 of them will be written "To eat only in the 7th Day lifestyle".
In 10 of them will be written "Every day eating lifestyle".
Then you have mix those cards and before every current week you will take one of them.
In this way the ratio of the probabilities of my lifestyle weeks and ordinary ones will be 6/1.
You can make all ratio of the probabilities you want and in those day you will be free from routine repetitive lifestyle.

 

[Nationalcosmopolitan]

And do what with the money? There isn't anyone working towards your project but you and you have no backers. There isn't anywhere to spend money to oppose your project because there are no supporters to counter.

If to believe in your words all participants of this thread are strongly oppose my projects.
So if you will establish the group of my project from 3 - 5 members you can establish the oppose fond from thousands members and millions dollars.
My projects can bring according your words a great global social damage.
So we need to establish great fond that will fight with it as long as possible with escalation the imitation of our war.

 

[Craig4]

If to believe in your words all participants of this thread are strongly oppose my projects.
So if you will establish the group of my project from 3 - 5 members you can establish the oppose fond from thousands members and millions dollars.
My projects can bring according your words a great global social damage.
So we need to establish great fond that will fight with it as long as possible with escalation the imitation of our war.

You really just don't understand your situation. No one has to lift a finger to oppose your plan because no one is lifting a finger to make it happen. No one thinks enough of your project to do anything to stop it. That's because even with no one working to oppose you, your project just won't happen.

 

[Border Reiver]

They want black and grey economy.
I want only white plan - market economy in which cash is forbidden and all finance streams are transparent.

How does forbidding the use of money stop bartering transactions? "I'll give you this shiny metallic disc with numbers stamped on it, along with this paper with some lovely artwork for that TV set."

These are human beings you're dealing with NC - distrustful of anyone not in the immediate family or that they don't see everyday (and often suspeicious of those), more than ready to visit violence on the other for various ends and cunning enough to figure out a way around almost any rule.

 

[wollery]

Mao enforced a planned economy, and even tried getting rid of money for a while. Any idea how that worked out?


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[Craig B]

There is no the word " עברית"
in Tanakh.
There is the word " יהודית" in Tanakh - the language of people of Judea.
In English transcription it sounds [ "ihudit"]

But I read here

Strong's Number H5680 matches the Hebrew עִבְרִי (`Ibriy ), which occurs 34 times in 32 verses in the Hebrew concordance of the KJV עִבְרִי
Transliteration
`Ibriy
Pronunciation
iv·rē' (Key)
Part of Speech
adjective, proper noun
Root Word (Etymology)
Patronymic from עֵבֶר (H5677)
Outline of Biblical Usage
Hebrew = "one from beyond" n pr
a designation of the patriarchs and the Israelites adj
a designation of the patriarchs and the Israelites
KJV Translation Count — Total: 34x
The KJV translates Strongs H5680 in the following manner: Hebrew (29x), Hebrew woman (2x), Hebrew (with H376) (1x), Hebrewess (1x), Hebrew man (1x).

It then lists all the verses containing this word, starting with Genesis 14:13, the text analysis of which contains

87 [e] lə-’aḇ-rām לְאַבְרָ֣ם Abram Noun 5680 [e] hā-‘iḇ-rî; הָעִבְרִ֑י the Hebrew Adj

and I can look up the other 33 occurrences if need be.

Can you explain this if, as you state, the word is not in the Tanakh?

 

[Craig4]

It is stupid to discuss the 4 greatest books with person who think that they are primitive and absolutely useless.
Even if you are right the everybody's reading of those stupid books will totally eliminate most kinds of hate between people.

Why? What's in those books are just made up stories, made up by people. It's not real.

 

[Craig B]

Why? What's in those books are just made up stories, made up by people. It's not real.

And the made up story in Numbers 31 is not very nice!