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I think that I have had this "better to hope than to know" feeling primarily in romantic relationships. It can be very scary to actually find out by asking what the other person thinks of your relationship; I've often avoided a direct question and just went on hoping that they thought of me as I thought of them. A direct question might end what I hoped was a romantic relationship.

So at one level I understand. But unlike relationships, if I had a vial of possible Bigfoot spit, I would have it tested as soon as I could get it to a lab. Especially if the intial DNA sequencing was free.
 
I claimed only to have an invalid sample, such as the ones submitted to Sykes. The reason for keeping the sample is that although unconfirmed, it has the possibility to be from a Bigfoot as this was the goal used for the collection method.
Chris B.

You've made a bunch of claims, to bad you refuse to back any up.
This thread is about evidence, other than your tree squatch you've produced nothing but hyperbole......can you prove anything?
 
I think that I have had this "better to hope than to know" feeling primarily in romantic relationships. It can be very scary to actually find out by asking what the other person thinks of your relationship; I've often avoided a direct question and just went on hoping that they thought of me as I thought of them. A direct question might end what I hoped was a romantic relationship.

So at one level I understand. But unlike relationships, if I had a vial of possible Bigfoot spit, I would have it tested as soon as I could get it to a lab. Especially if the intial DNA sequencing was free.
For many, I suspect, it goes even beyond that. Not knowing is the desired end state. Actual proof of Bigfoot is as much to be avoided as is disproof. The value is in the never-ending hunt because identity is dependent on it. Proof -- either positive or negative -- would eliminate the topic or move it into the realm of academia where the amateur hunters have no voice.
 
Maybe I missed it, but how did ChrisBRPKY manage to collect this bigfoot saliva anyway?

Also, after recently seeing "Chimp and the Frog" on youtube, Ive got an idea of how to get a Sasquatch DNA sample using Cane Toads.
 
Maybe I missed it, but how did ChrisBRPKY manage to collect this bigfoot saliva anyway?

Also, after recently seeing "Chimp and the Frog" on youtube, Ive got an idea of how to get a Sasquatch DNA sample using Cane Toads.


He has a "mysterious" group of porcupines working around the clock to collect imaginary evidence. Porcupines aren't scared of berries.
 
I claimed only to have an invalid sample, such as the ones submitted to Sykes. The reason for keeping the sample is that although unconfirmed, it has the possibility to be from a Bigfoot as this was the goal used for the collection method.
Chris B.



I'm lost. What's the point of this sample thing? If you're waiting for a body or chunk o' bigfoot, what's the spit sample for?
 
I'm feeling quite sure about a conclusion that was mentioned just above, that is: Chris doesn't want the sample (assuming it exists) tested, as it would undoubtedly come back as something mundane. This would mean he could no longer claim to have a 'potential' sample, and BFers really, really need something to hold onto lately (due to all the crap and frauds pulled by various other BFers - all of which have tarnished beyond repair any remaining 'authority' these Bfers may have had in the past).
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That is chris's most odd claim. But it is only one among many odd claims.

"I have proof but I just won't reveal it because reasons". DNA evidence? sure, but you can't see it. HD footage at 15'? Sure, but you can't see it, and so forth. Mistaking tree stumps and shadows for footies? sure you can have hatloads of that. Don't expect any checking. Multicoloured foots feeding their young? No there will not be any evidence of that either.

The bottom line for me is that if there was evidence, then it would be presented for all to see. CBRFKY presents nothing and expects everyone to eat it.

Sorry, I ain't buying that baloney.
 
...My sample, valid or not is not on the table. Chris B.
It's amazing how deep you can get when you're not honest huh?!

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"Not on the table?"

YOU'RE THE ONE WHO PUT ON THE TABLE IN THE FIRST PLACE!

Stop bringing things up and then refusing to discuss them!
ChrisBFRPKY forgets that the old game of playing both sides against the middle only works when you have some kind of authority. And he believes he's acquired that authority by skimming Wikipedia every third day or so. Forgetting of course that simply claiming authority isn't the only prerequisite. Actual knowledge and intelligence are also required.

You just can't see past #3. I'm sorry but clouding the issue of mystery DNA partial discovery of #4 with discussion of #3 Denisovan DNA type specimens is not gonna get you to where I am now. Chris B.
Where you are now? Are you ******* kidding me? You're ****** up dude! YOU'RE LYING! YOU ******* MADE UP THE TOE REFERENCE! Until you provide a link or evidence otherwise showing such, you're a ******* LIAR!
 
The only rational argument for not testing the saliva is that you don't want to know what it came from.


Or that he does know, or strongly suspects its provenance, but doesn't want it revealed to a wider audience.
 
News flash:
A large, hairy, human-like foot that matches footprints was just found in an old forgotten bear trap in south central Kentucky.
Unfortunately, since no one saw the animal that left it, it can't be tested or shown to anyone. It's invalid
 
Recall that there are people like Krantz who perpetuated a notion that Gigantopithecus was bipedal - and therefore bigfoot - simply from teeth and a couple of lower laws.

But wait, like a late night TV commercial, there's more!

Grover Krantz, the self-proclaimed modern Leonardo da Vinci, also reconstructed the bone structure of sasquatch feet from nothing more than footprint casts.

Krantzprints.jpg


Remarkable.

RayG
 
And they determined from the saliva that was really apple juice that bigfoots must have some hybrid apple ancestry?

:D

The apple was a MacIntosh giving rise to the small but dedicated group of Footers that insist Bigfoot originated in Scotland.
 
It's amazing how deep you can get when you're not honest huh?!
On the contrary, I find it's extremely easy to be honest. Even in the presence of those who tend to break down sentences word by word and use certain words completely out of context to create a new attack method based on these "creations". It's very entertaining.

Some of the more entertaining attempts even have me making statements I never made.

ChrisBFRPKY forgets that the old game of playing both sides against the middle only works when you have some kind of authority. And he believes he's acquired that authority by skimming Wikipedia every third day or so. Forgetting of course that simply claiming authority isn't the only prerequisite. Actual knowledge and intelligence are also required.
I don't claim any sort of "authority". I wouldn't suggest using WIKI as a direct reference for anything important though. That may lead to problems.

Where you are now? Are you ******* kidding me? You're ****** up dude! YOU'RE LYING! YOU ******* MADE UP THE TOE REFERENCE! Until you provide a link or evidence otherwise showing such, you're a ******* LIAR!

I provided no less than 3 links. If you had read the thread, you would have found them. I'm betting your zeal for attack has overshot your ability to digest the facts required to do so.

Here's one of the articles complete with a pic of the toe bone:

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-25423498

And in case you can't click the link, or you're expecting others not to, here's a quoting from the article:

"The Neanderthal toe bone was found in the same cave in 2010, though in a deeper layer of sediment that is thought to be about 10,000-20,000 years older. The cave also contains modern human artefacts, meaning that at least three groups of people occupied the cave at different times.

A high quality genome sequence was obtained from the small bone using techniques developed by Prof Svante Paabo and colleagues at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany, and it reveals some interesting insights about both the Neanderthals and other human types.

For example, the researchers say, the Neanderthal woman was highly inbred and could have been the offspring of half-siblings who shared the same mother.


Other scenarios are possible though, including that her parents were an uncle and niece or aunt and nephew, a grandparent and grandchild, or double first-cousins (the offspring of two siblings who married siblings).

Comparisons of the genetic sequence of multiple human groups - Neanderthals, Denisovans and modern humans - yielded further insights into their evolutionary relationships.

The results show that Neanderthals and Denisovans were very closely related, and that their common ancestor split off from the ancestors of modern humans about 400,000 years ago. The genome data reveal that Neanderthals and Denisovans diverged about 300,000 years ago.

But it also threw up a surprise result: that the Denisovans interbred with a mysterious fourth group of early humans that were living in Eurasia at the time. Between 2.7 and 5.8% of the Denisovan genome comes from this enigmatic species."

The bolded section is the important part (well besides the fact that these percentages of mystery DNA came from the Neanderthal toe bone)

Later DNA analysis from the Denisovan type specimens (finger bone and teeth) ALSO contain about 1% of this unknown DNA.
This reference can be found at this link:

http://www.newscientist.com/article...erges-from-denisovan-genome.html#.VO3hJ3zF-So

From the article:

"That should mean that Denisovans and Neanderthals look equally different from modern humans, but on closer inspection, Reich found that that wasn't the case. "Denisovans appear more distinct from modern humans than Neanderthals," he told the meeting. Specifically, scattered fragments amounting to 1 per cent of the Denisovan genome look much older than the rest of it.

The best explanation is that the Denisovans interbred with an unidentified species, and picked up some of their DNA. Or as Reich puts it: "Denisovans harbour ancestry from an unknown archaic population, unrelated to Neanderthals."

I don't like to lecture those on their shortcomings. I suggest further reading of some educational material would suit you better than blindly calling someone "LIAR" though. Chris B.



If you can't show the toe, you ain't good to go.
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/71825000/jpg/_71825874_71821638.jpg
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On the contrary, I find it's extremely easy to be honest.

So do I, yes that's a toe bone. So what?

What does any of this herring which happens to be red have to do with an alleged extant 9-foot monkey wandering around North America with absolutely, positively zero (o) physical evidence in its favor?

Do you have some? If so, be honest and produce it.

You know, your alleged footie spit, your so-called HD video; I assume you can produce this perhaps more handily than your Neanderthal toe.

ETA: Before you address your refusal to produce your claimed footie evidence, you should probably address your error in reading your own link, as Tolls pointed out below.

No, check that, no more red herrings, just the monkey please.
 
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But it also threw up a surprise result: that the Denisovans interbred with a mysterious fourth group of early humans that were living in Eurasia at the time. Between 2.7 and 5.8% of the Denisovan genome comes from this enigmatic species."

The bolded section is the important part (well besides the fact that these percentages of mystery DNA came from the Neanderthal toe bone)

Actually, the "mystery" DNA was found in the Denisovan remains, not the Neanderthal toe bone. Because otherwise the sentence would not be "(b)etween 2.7 and 5.8% of the Denisovan genome comes from this enigmatic species", but would be "(b)etween 2.7 and 5.8% of the Neanderthal genome comes from this enigmatic species".

The article is clearly discussing two distinct DNA sequencing events. One on a Neanderthal toe bone and the other on the Denisovan finger and tooth.

Now...how about that DNA analysis of the spit?
 
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