A city with an energy policy conservatives will hate

Travis

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If I've learned any truism it is that Republicans hate anything that makes life pleasant. Hence their hatred of the environment, schools, parks, healthy babies and safe roads.

And I just discovered a town they'll hate more than others.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/vermont-city-come-rely-100-percent-renewable-energy/

Yes, a city with 100% renewable electricity. And I'm getting solar panels on my house. Surely a sign I hate America.
 
Travis said:
If I've learned any truism it is that Republicans hate anything that makes life pleasant....
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I've had many a pleasant day at the rifle range. The GOP hates guns now? :)

WILLIAM BRANGHAM: ....
Another 20% or so is sourced from wind turbines like these on the hills of a neighboring town, and solar arrays like this one at the airport add another small amount to their total. But the biggest portion of the city’s renewable production comes from hydropower… some they source from other places, like this older hydroelectric dam in Maine, some they produce at their own plant on the Winooski river.
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They don't need the GOP to hate them. There are plenty of nut jobs out there that will do the hating for them. Hydroelectric kills fish and wind power kills birds. Some people get all upset about the shade from solar. Can't win no matter what.

Ranb
 
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Let's not poison the well here. Wait for some actual conservatives to complain about this. This post just reminds me of a recent meme I saw going around Facebook where conservatives were crowing that Kaley Cuoco's recent interview was going to "really piss off the libruls", when in reality I never saw a single liberal raise an eyebrow over it.
 
Ranb said:
I've had many a pleasant day at the rifle range. The GOP hates guns now? :)

Ranb
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Well, you were forced by onerous regulations to go to the range, rather than simply using your guns to open your beer can in the privacy of your own living room.
 
A different brand of generalisation from me: Americans sure like to call people who vote for a different political party a bunch of evil idiots.
 
Is the OP supposed to be humor, because I gotta tell you, I am missing the joke.

I must hate America or babies or something.

Also not sure what it has to do with USA Politics.... other than the OP, but Conservatives are bad or something.
 
Travis said:
If I've learned any truism it is that Republicans hate anything that makes life pleasant. Hence their hatred of the environment, schools, parks, healthy babies and safe roads.

And I just discovered a town they'll hate more than others.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/vermont-city-come-rely-100-percent-renewable-energy/

Yes, a city with 100% renewable electricity. And I'm getting solar panels on my house. Surely a sign I hate America.
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This doesn't say much for your knowledge of truisms, but what is it exactly about going 100% "renewable" that makes life more pleasant? I would have thought using fossil fuels is very pleasant.

Sometimes, I like to dream of a world where humans hadn't discovered oil in the mid-19th century, but somehow managed to build a modern society anyway (maybe by the year 2200 we would have reached a standard of living roughly equal to the 1950s). I go on to imagine a poor mountaineer named Jed who barely kept his family fed. And then one day, he was shooting at some food, and up from the ground came a bubblin' crude. Oil that is, black gold, Texas tea. Or, as I like to call it, liquid energy.

Think how transformative that would be. You could just suck immense quantities of usable energy right out of the ground. No need for expensive solar panels and bird-killing windmills taking up valuable real estate. No need for dams and the associated destruction of fragile ecosystems and the haggling over water rights. No need for car batteries weighing thousands of pounds and filled with nasty chemicals. You might even be able to fuel planes for long-range air travel instead of having to use those dangerous zeppelins filled with hydrogen gas.

Oh, I'm sure there would be Luddites who wouldn't want to use that new-fangled, high techy, liquid energy. There always are. Probably the same kind who think that miracle of 19th century technology (you know, the train) is the wave of the future.
 
Yes. As far as I know Mason County WA does not have any "no shooting" areas like neighboring Kitsap County. I can go out shooting in my 1/3 acre yard if I want or shoot in the house; but I don't. I use the local rifle range to shoot.

Ranb
 
GodMark2 said:
Well, you were forced by onerous regulations to go to the range, rather than simply using your guns to open your beer can in the privacy of your own living room.
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Too big a splash, too much spilled beer!!!!!!!:jaw-dropp:jaw-dropp:jaw-dropp
 
Porpoise of Life said:
A different brand of generalisation from me: Americans sure like to call people who vote for a different political party a bunch of evil idiots.
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In all fairness, it wasn't like that until around 1980 when the former Republicans/GOP got into bed first with the fundies (religious nuts) and then hard core with the wealthy and the anti-tax/anti-services (except those they used) proto tea baggers. I didn't vote Republican then, but I did not loathe them either, just figured they were misguided and might be smart enough to see the error of their ways. And, some of them did reasonably often. No hope now, they turned to slime by '81-82. Oddly, the Democratic Party really didn't change a lot over that time - except for our attitude towards the republickers and 'baggers and fundies who like to ruin peoples lives - if they are not rich/religious and conservative.
 
I'm not sure what conservatives are supposed to hate. It sounds kind me of cool to me -a poster who is probably viewed as conservative. I also can't imagine Boehner et al being too upset.

Is there no end to the caricatures of conservatives that will be drawn on this forum?
 
My understanding is that Lancaster is the first city to be 100% clean energy driven-- pretty much due to its republican mayor. They've also done other interesting things, like free public wifi. Of course, their mayor is an extreme anomaly, and some of his anticrime stuff has drawn valid criticism.
 
xjx388 said:
I'm not sure what conservatives are supposed to hate. It sounds kind me of cool to me -a poster who is probably viewed as conservative. I also can't imagine Boehner et al being too upset.

Is there no end to the caricatures of conservatives that will be drawn on this forum?
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I am somewhat in agreement with you, and can point to my first post in this thread as evidence of that. On the other hand, I wonder if the presence of the whole "rolling coal" idiocy might have inspired the level of snark found in this thread.
 
Porpoise of Life said:
A different brand of generalisation from me: Americans sure like to call people who vote for a different political party a bunch of evil idiots.
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"They're just humans with equally valid opinions that I disagree with" isn't much of a motivation, though.
 
fuelair said:
In all fairness, it wasn't like that until around 1980 when the former Republicans/GOP got into bed first with the fundies (religious nuts) and then hard core with the wealthy and the anti-tax/anti-services (except those they used) proto tea baggers. I didn't vote Republican then, but I did not loathe them either, just figured they were misguided and might be smart enough to see the error of their ways. And, some of them did reasonably often. No hope now, they turned to slime by '81-82. Oddly, the Democratic Party really didn't change a lot over that time - except for our attitude towards the republickers and 'baggers and fundies who like to ruin peoples lives - if they are not rich/religious and conservative.
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I give up, is this a Poe?

Seriously, this type of nonsense is embarrassing.
 
theprestige said:
The only thing I can find to complain about is that the envirotards forgot to tell me Hydro was on the "good renewable" list again.
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Hydroelectric power made a resurgence in 2005 after those carbon-loving republicans in congress expanded a tax credit for renewables that included hydroelectricity.

Most of the new electricity is coming from building plants at dams that already exist. But just try to build a new dam and see how fast hydroelectricity becomes unfavorable with the enviro-weenies.
 
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