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Lockerbie: High Court Review

Ambrosia

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As reported on the BBC

A High Court judge is to be asked if members of the families of some of the victims of the 1988 Lockerbie bombing can launch an appeal on behalf of the only man convicted of the atrocity. [...]

The Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission (SCCRC) wants the court to rule whether it is allowed to investigate the Lockerbie case again, on behalf of members of victims' families.


Fingers crossed this time around the families get their wish and a full appeal goes ahead.
 
I expect this thread will be moved into Social Issues and Current Events momentarily.

:D

I won't hold my breath if it's all the same :)

Jango - there are several very long threads in the CT section here regarding Lockerbie.

the very condensed version is that the evidence points to the bomb being put on the plane at Heathrow not Malta, and that Megrahi wasn't the bomber.

There's a pile of weird stuff, the biggest oddity is the fragment of timer which the prosecution claim ties Libya to the bomb. Most of the evidence seems to point to Syrian Terrorists who were getting revenge for the Vincennes Gulf shootdown.

Have a read through some of the other threads if you want more detail.

If you want still more background there are half a dozen films on youtube and 10 or more books written about it now too.
 
I won't hold my breath if it's all the same :)

Jango - there are several very long threads in the CT section here regarding Lockerbie.

the very condensed version is that the evidence points to the bomb being put on the plane at Heathrow not Malta, and that Megrahi wasn't the bomber.

There's a pile of weird stuff, the biggest oddity is the fragment of timer which the prosecution claim ties Libya to the bomb. Most of the evidence seems to point to Syrian Terrorists who were getting revenge for the Vincennes Gulf shootdown.

Have a read through some of the other threads if you want more detail.

If you want still more background there are half a dozen films on youtube and 10 or more books written about it now too.
Including one by our very own forum member Rolfe.
 
Including one by our very own forum member Rolfe.

...who was also interviewed by Al Jazeera regarding her work on analyzing the case.

In response to the Conspiracy question, if one exists it would be to implicate Megrahi and hence Libya for geopolitical reasons. The alternative is some sort of investigative incompetence by authorities.
 
I won't hold my breath if it's all the same :)

Jango - there are several very long threads in the CT section here regarding Lockerbie.

the very condensed version is that the evidence points to the bomb being put on the plane at Heathrow not Malta, and that Megrahi wasn't the bomber.

There's a pile of weird stuff, the biggest oddity is the fragment of timer which the prosecution claim ties Libya to the bomb. Most of the evidence seems to point to Syrian Terrorists who were getting revenge for the Vincennes Gulf shootdown.

Have a read through some of the other threads if you want more detail.

If you want still more background there are half a dozen films on youtube and 10 or more books written about it now too.

An Arab/Islamic whodunit mystery is what I've gathered.
 
...who was also interviewed by Al Jazeera regarding her work on analyzing the case.

In response to the Conspiracy question, if one exists it would be to implicate Megrahi and hence Libya for geopolitical reasons. The alternative is some sort of investigative incompetence by authorities.
There's a third alternative: that the British investigators didn't like the idea one bit that security at Heathrow would have been so lax that the bomb suitcase had been smuggled onboard there.

ETA: moreover, all threads which discussed the details of the case have been in the Conspiracy section. Rolfe has complained various times about that. But I guess that's been the thinking of the OP of starting the thread in this section.
 
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As reported on the BBC




Fingers crossed this time around the families get their wish and a full appeal goes ahead.


Just out of interest, did you start this thread in the CT section or did the mods move it here?

It doesn't currently fit the CT mould as far as I can see.
 
Just out of interest, did you start this thread in the CT section or did the mods move it here?

It doesn't currently fit the CT mould as far as I can see.

I started this thread here as historically any thread about Lockerbie has been in, or ended up in, the CT subforum. If it's more appropriate for another subforum and gets moved that's fine with me.

If the High Court decides the appeal should go ahead then Current Events would be an appropriate place for a thread about that.

I suspect that this latest hearing will result in no new appeal, because sleeping dogs. Or something like that. I'd like to think that justice will be done and eventually we can find out who did bomb the plane.
 
If they conclude it was Megrahi would you be satisfied with the verdict?

It depends on the evidence.

there are a *lot* of problems and contradictions and holes in the existing evidence used to convict him.

There would need to be new evidence that can show Megrahi was part of a bomb plot.

there would also need to be evidence that explains how the bomb was put onto the aircraft at Heathrow by the plot that Megrahi was a part of. He himself was in Malta that day, so if Megrahi was shown to be the guy that put the bomb on the plane, there would need to be evidence showing how the London origin theory is incorrect and Malta was the place of origin.

I have always stated since I first started potsing in Lockerbie threads some years back.

If Megrahi is the(a) bomber of PA103 - then show me the evidence that proves it.

To date noone has done that. The SCCRC reviewed the evidence in detail some years ago [their full report is here(newspaper summary here)] and came to the conclusion that the conviction is flawed and a miscarriage of justice is likely to have taken place.

He was convicted in 2001 via a special no jury court, his first appeal was thrown out via a legal technicality, the UN observer at the trial has always maintained it was a politically motivated show trial.

It's not the wild speculations of some random people on a forum JAQing off, some serious people have serious misgivings about the verdict, based on the evidence.

I remain cynical that the new appeal will go ahead, I think it's still too big a can of worms and they'll shy away from opening it.

They really should and I hope that they do.
 
There is a thread in SI&CE which is relevant to this, but I was reluctant to bump it because I thought perhaps nobody was interested and I'd just end up talking to myself.

I'm sick of discussing the legal and non-conspiratorial aspects of this case in the cessipt beside chemtrails, moon hoaxers and grassy knoll enthusiasts, to be honest. If I bump the SI&CE thread, will you guys come over there. This is no more a conspiracy than any other legal case that's under challenge.
 
There is a thread in SI&CE which is relevant to this, but I was reluctant to bump it because I thought perhaps nobody was interested and I'd just end up talking to myself.

I'm sick of discussing the legal and non-conspiratorial aspects of this case in the cessipt beside chemtrails, moon hoaxers and grassy knoll enthusiasts, to be honest. If I bump the SI&CE thread, will you guys come over there. This is no more a conspiracy than any other legal case that's under challenge.

I will.
 

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