Merged Onesimpleprinciple predicting the flow of Dark?

[Daylightstar]

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Today model an atom is total wrong!
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Why do you even appear to accept that atoms exist?

 

[Daylightstar]

What makes you accept that atoms exist, Pixie of key?

 

[Pixie of key]

What makes you accept that atoms exist, Pixie of key?

Only thing what really exist is movement!

Movement = energy

Movement = pushing force

Eternal Recycling working with movement which is pushing force.

EternalOne

 

[Daylightstar]

Only thing what really exist is movement!

Movement = energy

Movement = pushing force

Eternal Recycling working with movement which is pushing force.

EternalOne

Of course, no honest answer from you.

Irrationality breeds dishonesty and makes it necessary.
Irrationality appears to 'criminalize' opinion.

 

[Sideroxylon]

Only thing what really exist is movement!

Movement = energy

Movement = pushing force
Eternal Recycling working with movement which is pushing force.

EternalOne

 

[Pixie of key]

[qimg]http://i.imgur.com/uZOlttQ.jpg[/qimg]

Galileo: what happening for expanding space when is expandibg?

you: space metric grid grow.

Galileo: why that happening

you: because space expanding

Galileo: whatkind of science test you can makeeith expanding space

you: none, we just believe, space expanding

Galileo: ou ****, really, is this pseudoscience ir what?

EternalOne

 

[jaydeehess]

I can say, because there is movement and i am right!

EternalMovement

If you can say then feel free to do so. You havent yet. I sincerly doubt you will or can.

I am right!

EternalResponsetoNonesense

 

[Sideroxylon]

Galileo: what happening for expanding space when is expandibg?

you: space metric grid grow.

Galileo: why that happening

you: because space expanding

Galileo: whatkind of science test you can makeeith expanding space

you: none, we just believe, space expanding

Galileo: ou ****, really, is this pseudoscience ir what?

EternalOne

I reckon I could do a better job of explaining the evidence for expansion than that.

The real question is why you are still stuck with Aristotelian ideas of movement.

 

[The Man]

Only thing what really exist is movement!

Movement of what? If what has moved doesn't "really exist" than neither can its movement.

Movement = energy

Demonstrably false, even stationary objects have energy.

Movement = pushing force

Also demonstrably false as even stationary objects can be under applied forces. Likewise a moving object need not be under any applied force for that movement. Also this directly contradicts your "Movement = energy" assertion above as the two combined would mean that energy = force which is dimensionally incorrect.

Eternal Recycling working with movement which is pushing force.

EternalOne

EternalNone

 

[The Man]

Galileo: what happening for expanding space when is expandibg?

you: space metric grid grow.

Galileo: why that happening

you: because space expanding

Galileo: whatkind of science test you can makeeith expanding space

you: none, we just believe, space expanding

Galileo: ou ****, really, is this pseudoscience ir what?

Making up a ridiculous conversation yourself only ridicules yourself.

EternalOne

EternalRidiculousness

 

[Pixie of key]

Movement of what? If what has moved doesn't "really exist" than neither can its movement.



Demonstrably false, even stationary objects have energy.




Also demonstrably false as even stationary objects can be under applied forces. Likewise a moving object need not be under any applied force for that movement. Also this directly contradicts your "Movement = energy" assertion above as the two combined would mean that energy = force which is dimensionally incorrect.



EternalNone

"Demonstrably false, even stationary objects have energy."

heh heh! There is no any stationary object!

even one quark recycling all a time movement / energy!

later is same expanding quark with other expanding movement / energy!

Everything moving all a time!

there and here is only movement / energy and nothing else!

i can see that you dont have any idea yet, what kind of thing eternal and infinity universe really is!

stationary object, what a **** is stationary object i just ask?

EternalOne

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[Pixie of key]

Lets try prove that there somewhere is stationary object, heh heh!

stationary object, heh heh!

lets tell me something about, what a **** is stationary object?

EternalMovement

 

[Sideroxylon]

Lets try prove that there somewhere is stationary object, heh heh!

stationary object, heh heh!

lets tell me something about, what a **** is stationary object?

EternalMovement

Your utility to understand basic physics looks pretty intransigent.

 

[Pixie of key]

Your utility to understand basic physics looks pretty intransigent.

there is no stationary object anywhere and this is fact!

There is only movement / energy and nothing else!

EternalMovement

 

[Craig B]

Movement = pushing force

Ah, we're back to Aristotle!

One of the fundamental propositions of Aristotelian philosophy is that there is no effect without a cause. Applied to moving bodies, this proposition dictates that there is no motion without a force. Speed, then is proportional to force and inversely proportional to resistance

ETA Here's a modern comment on Aristotle, designed for members of the public who have no particular scientific knowledge, so it's appropriate here.

Basically, Aristotle's view of motion is "it requires a force to make an object move in an unnatural" manner - or, more simply, "motion requires force".

After all, if you push a book, it moves. When you stop pushing, the book stops moving. (Not right away, of course, but, unless you push it, it gradually slows to a stop.) To keep a bicycle moving (on level ground) you have to keep pedaling. To keep a car moving, you have to keep the engine pushing it.

To most people, this is a very reasonable and "common sense" notion. There are only two problems with this idea:

It doesn't work, and

It isn't logical.

http://www.batesville.k12.in.us/physics/phynet/mechanics/newton1/Aristotle.html

 

[Sideroxylon]

there is no stationary object anywhere and this is fact!

There is only movement / energy and nothing else!

EternalMovement

Yes, but where does all this movement (which necessitates a pushing force) in the universe come from? There has to be unmoved mover - God!

 

[Daylightstar]

Yes, but where does all this movement (which necessitates a pushing force) in the universe come from? There has to be unmoved mover - God!

Yep, and Pixie likes gods. He used to talk about them all the time .....

 

[Daylightstar]

there is no stationary object anywhere and this is fact!
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That's nice Pixie of key.
Now tell Santa Claus where you read that and on what grounds you accepted it.

 

[Pixie of key]

Ah, we're back to Aristotle!

ETA Here's a modern comment on Aristotle, designed for members of the public who have no particular scientific knowledge, so it's appropriate here. http://www.batesville.k12.in.us/physics/phynet/mechanics/newton1/Aristotle.html

Did Aristoteles tell that one atom be later same size what visible universe is now etc.?

Did Aristoteles tell that this expanding movement / energy what expanding nucleus of atoms have now, changing with time and finally expanding nucleus of atoms are same, but that expanding movement / energy is other expanding movemdnt / energy what now?

i think, Aristoteles never found out that all stuff expanding all a time, also light snd ssme time expanding concentrstions recycling expanding movement / energy whit each other!

EternalOne

 

[Pixie of key]

Yes, but where does all this movement (which necessitates a pushing force) in the universe come from? There has to be unmoved mover - God!

Movement is eternal!

Movement never born and is never end!

Maybe you cant understund that, but if you cant understund, it dont prove, movement is not eternal!

or do you really believe, anything at all can born from nothingless?

there is no god or hokkus pokkus beginning!

The beginning of everything is fiction!

EternalLove