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"The Principle" - anti-Copernican movie

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The Principle is now playing at a theater in Chicago, but it may soon be playing elsewhere also.

Executive Producer Robert Sungenis:
Destined to become one of the most controversial films of our time, The Principle brings before the public eye surprising results from recent large-scale surveys of our universe – surveys which disclose unexpected evidence of a preferred direction in the cosmos, aligned with our supposedly insignificant Earth.
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(Galileo Was Wrong: The Principle at "Galileo Was Wrong, The Church was Right", which advocates geocentrism)

Peter Woit speculated about the film some months back in The Principle | Not Even Wrong:
As near as I can tell from all this, without having yet seen the full film, it appears that what probably happened is the following. Sungenis decided that the anthropic principle business in cosmology supported his views, so he went and got physicists like Kaku, Krauss and Tegmark to say silly things on camera, then edited this to suit his case. Maybe the trailer is misleading, and these people actually make a cogent case against Sungenis’s nonsense and for solid science, we’ll see…
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It's been playing for three days but there's nothing leaked on torrents or YouTube.

I think that's for the best.
 
I tried watching the trailer, but the website's background music drowned out the trailer's dialogue.
 
Wait! People still believe that the Earth is the center of the universe, and are not participating in satire?

I weep for humanity should such nonsense ever gain mass appeal.
 
jaydeehess said:
Wait! People still believe that the Earth is the center of the universe, and are not participating in satire?

I weep for humanity should such nonsense ever gain mass appeal.
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We are speaking of the same earth where people rape pit bulls and pretend they are from ISIS about to make some massacre (see thread by checkmite) so in the rgand scheme of things, this film is nothing really that weep-worth.
 
ehcks said:
It's been playing for three days but there's nothing leaked on torrents or YouTube.

I think that's for the best.
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Aepervius said:
Nothing on torrent or youtube ? That is usually a sure indicator that the film is a load of twaddle.
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At this stage, however, the only way that a good digital version would be out is it was leaked by someone on the inside. But once it's officially released on digital media, it can then be cracked or scraped.

smartcooky said:
No, there is plenty of stuff on YT

Yes, its a load of twaddle
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I've found it hard to find anything on YT about it. I can find its trailer, but not much more than that.
 
lpetrich said:
At this stage, however, the only way that a good digital version would be out is it was leaked by someone on the inside. But once it's officially released on digital media, it can then be cracked or scraped.


I've found it hard to find anything on YT about it. I can find its trailer, but not much more than that.
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Some popular movies get leaked on the first day. For this one, no one seemed to care enough to sneak their camera into the theater.

And again, I think that's for the best. Ideas this obviously bad should be ignored. It doesn't deserve attention.
 
How do these people reconcile the fact that if we lived in a geocentric universe then objects revolving around us further out, just in this galaxy alone, would be going faster than the speed of light?
 
Mudcat said:
How do these people reconcile the fact that if we lived in a geocentric universe then objects revolving around us further out, just in this galaxy alone, would be going faster than the speed of light?
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Here's where you went wrong.
 
Mudcat said:
How do these people reconcile the fact that if we lived in a geocentric universe then objects revolving around us further out, just in this galaxy alone, would be going faster than the speed of light?
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I think the laws of physics are ignored or misinterpreted as needed by these people.
 
Spindrift said:
I think the laws of physics are ignored or misinterpreted as needed by these people.
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They would have to be, in my opinion. The gravity well needed to have the entirety of the universe revolving around earth would be... Well, astronomical to use precisely the right term. Life wouldn't be possible on this planet at all and the solar system would've been sucked into it at the very least.

As easy as it is to poke holes in this 'theory' how in Tolkein's green middle-earth can anyone believe in it in this day and age?
 
Mudcat said:
They would have to be, in my opinion. The gravity well needed to have the entirety of the universe revolving around earth would be... Well, astronomical to use precisely the right term. Life wouldn't be possible on this planet at all and the solar system would've been sucked into it at the very least.

As easy as it is to poke holes in this 'theory' how in Tolkein's green middle-earth can anyone believe in it in this day and age?
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This day and age?

The day and age of homeopathy, reiki, chiropractic, Long Island mediums, bigfooters, truthers and birthers?

It's almost more surprising that this crap isn't taught in schools.
 
Spindrift said:
The day and age of homeopathy, reiki, chiropractic, Long Island mediums, bigfooters, truthers and birthers?
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At least half of those things it's understandable why people would believe in them, geocentrism is so wrong it's hard to know where to even start with it. It's been disproven centuries ago by a man with a telescope that would be considered dinky by today's standards and it's so easy to disprove that even a complete layman could do it.

It quite literally has nothing to go for it.

Spindrift said:
It's almost more surprising that this crap isn't taught in schools.
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Creationism has a better chance of being taught in school.
 
Mudcat said:
They would have to be, in my opinion. The gravity well needed to have the entirety of the universe revolving around earth would be... Well, astronomical to use precisely the right term. Life wouldn't be possible on this planet at all and the solar system would've been sucked into it at the very least.
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Not true. In GR, there is no preferred frame. We can pick the frame in which the earth is at rest and see the physics works just as well as a frame in which the sun or the center of the galaxy is at rest.

There are several previous threads that touch on this. http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=172265
 
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