Merged The Disturbences in Ferguson Missouri...

Upchurch said:
I would guess that is because of the various leaks, recently.
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No, it would be because the information in the leaks are not what they wanted to hear .. Sort of a " shooting the messenger " scenario..


Upchurch said:
Maybe that.

More likely they feel, like the DOJ, that these leaks are meant to sway public opinion in favor of Wilson.
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I have a feeling they wouldn't have a problem if the leaks were swaying the public in the other direction...
 
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Bogative said:
None. But the thread is titled "The Disturbences in Ferguson Missouri" and not riots. There is no way this post would've made it through the moderation on "The Michael Brown shooting" thread and I did not feel that it warranted an entire new thread.
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Not riots? How would you categorize the ' disturbances ' that prompted the thread?
 
Skeptical Greg said:
No, it would be because the information in the leaks are not what they wanted to hear
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Clearly. As I linked above, the Department of Justice is also upset with these leaks and believes they are meant to sway public opinion, specifically away from what the protestors believe.

At every turn, it seems, this situation is being mismanaged.
 
Upchurch said:
Clearly. As I linked above, the Department of Justice is also upset with these leaks and believes they are meant to sway public opinion, specifically away from what the protestors believe.

At every turn, it seems, this situation is being mismanaged.
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How unfortunate it would be if the result is a lack of riots when the cop is not indicted.
 
I have a feeling the evidence coming from the investigation is not going to provide a "smoking gun" for either side.
I love the way people are already peddling conspiracy theories about a few leaks...and ,realistically, did anybody expect there NOT to be leaks in a case this high profile?
 
Skeptical Greg said:
Not riots? How would you categorize the ' disturbances ' that prompted the thread?
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If you feel the subject of my post is inappropriate for this thread because it doesn't involve rioting, then by all means, contact a moderator.
 
dudalb said:
I love the way people are already peddling conspiracy theories about a few leaks...and ,realistically, did anybody expect there NOT to be leaks in a case this high profile?
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Thus far, the only people I see "peddling conspiracy theories" is the DOJ. Apparently, they had higher expectations.
 
Brainster said:
How unfortunate it would be if the result is a lack of riots when the cop is not indicted.
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I'm having trouble parsing this triple negative:
  1. It would be unfortunate if there were riots when the cop is indicted?
  2. It would be fortunate if there were not riots when the cop is indicted?
  3. It would be fortunate if there were riots when the cop is not indicted?
 
Upchurch said:
And they often don't. My mother is religious and I am not.

Humanity is far too complex of a system to make predictions based on a single factor. To say this is to be expected (that is, not a surprise) is a hasty generalization.
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Are you saying that children don't replicate the behavior they experience from their parents and families?

How can they not, it is all they know.
The majority of children just don't have the cognitive wherewithal to see through and overcome dysfunction. They are products of their origins.
 
Gallstones said:
Are you saying that children don't replicate the behavior they experience from their parents and families?

How can they not, it is all they know.
The majority of children just don't have the cognitive wherewithal to see through and overcome dysfunction. They are products of their origins.
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I don't know what your childhood was like, but I assure you that teenagers have far more influences than just their parents and families. Michael Brown was 18.

It is fairly trivial to demonstrate that kids can be different from their parents.
 
Skeptical Greg said:
No, it would be because the information in the leaks are not what they wanted to hear .. Sort of a " shooting the messenger " scenario..




I have a feeling they wouldn't have a problem if the leaks were swaying the public in the other direction...
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^^
 
Upchurch said:
I don't know what your childhood was like, but I assure you that teenagers have far more influences than just their parents and families. Michael Brown was 18.

It is fairly trivial to demonstrate that kids can be different from their parents.
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Do you try to teach your kids right from wrong? How to read, write, to study hard? Or do you shrug and say "parenting will not have a significant impact in how they develop"?

Somehow, I'd bet that in the 'real' world you behave as if parenting matters.
 
Upchurch said:
I'm having trouble parsing this triple negative:
  1. It would be unfortunate if there were riots when the cop is indicted?
  2. It would be fortunate if there were not riots when the cop is indicted?
  3. It would be fortunate if there were riots when the cop is not indicted?
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Really, you have that much trouble with the English language?

It would be unfortunate (for the race hustlers like Al Sharpton and their enablers in the liberal media and on JREF) if there were no riots when the cop is not indicted.

To help you out I expect riots when the cop is not indicted. I hope those riots occur before the elections, but that's just me.
 
Giz said:
Do you try to teach your kids right from wrong? How to read, write, to study hard? Or do you shrug and say "parenting will not have a significant impact in how they develop"?

Somehow, I'd bet that in the 'real' world you behave as if parenting matters.
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Of course, I do.

That does not mean, however, that kids always turn out just like their parents or that parents are just like their kids, as Scrut suggested. Kids have many influences in their lives and are susceptible to suggestion, especially in their teenage years, by people they respect. Those people may or may not include their parents.

It is not reasonable to expect parents to have the same behaviors as their teenage sons. As Unabogie points out, this is a case of confirmation bias.
 
Brainster said:
Really, you have that much trouble with the English language?
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I have that much trouble with a triple negative. As I demonstrated, your sentence could be parsed in three different ways. You meant the second.

Clearly, I'm not the one having problems with the English language when you are the one using ambiguous sentence construction. I mean, double negatives are bad enough, but triple? I can't not misunderstand how you wouldn't fail to not get that.
 
Upchurch said:
And they often don't. My mother is religious and I am not.
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Hypothetically speaking (i.e., without any reference to you personally), it's possible for someone to avoid their parents' theism, but still adopt their parents' religious behaviors--fundamentalism, judgementalism, self-righteousness, selective interpretation, etc. Take communism, for example: It's a traditionally atheistic belief system, but hardcore communists exhibit all the religious pathologies. I wonder how many of them learned to be zealots from their parents, even if their zealotry is for something different.
 
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