Merged The Disturbences in Ferguson Missouri...

So I guess now there's a #writeinmikebrown campaign for the upcoming St. Louis County executive election if incumbent Steve Stenger doesn't "denounce" District Attorney Bob McCulloch by tomorrow.
 
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mi...-violence-ferguson-after-shrine-blaze-n210451

Shots were fired at police officers Tuesday night during a flare-up in Ferguson, Missouri, after a shrine to police-shooting victim Michael Brown burned down. "We saw the muzzle flash come from the weapon as we stood on the edge of the road. I was there. I took cover," Missouri State Highway Patrol Capt. Ron Johnson said Wednesday as he warned that a replay of the previous night's violence would not be tolerated. "If that means that officers will respond in riot gear, they will," Johnson said. "We cannot have nights like last night."

Things getting restless again ...
 
It looks like the rotten apple didn't fall too far from the tree. Michael Brown's mother, Lesley McSpadden, was involved in a strong-arm robbery committed against Michael Brown's grandmother and cousin.

A police report describes a car pulling up and several people getting out. One of those people, was reported to be Michael Brown`s Mom, Lesley McSpadden. A witness described McSpadden yelling ‘You can`t sell this ****” One of the relatives, who was selling, reportedly demanded McSpadden show a document proving she had a patent.

The police report says that`s when an unidentified person with McSpadden assaulted Petty so violently that it resulted in a 911 call. A witness tells Fox 2 that the weapon was a metal pipe or pole. The suspect reportedly struck Petty in the face. Medics then took him to Christian Northeast Hospital. The witness said the assault suspect grabbed merchandise and a box of cash believed to contain about $1,400.
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Skeptical Greg said:
Relevance to the Ferguson riots?
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None. But the thread is titled "The Disturbences in Ferguson Missouri" and not riots. There is no way this post would've made it through the moderation on "The Michael Brown shooting" thread and I did not feel that it warranted an entire new thread.
 
The Central Scrutinizer said:
Nurture is the correct answer. Children often copy what they see adults do and might think that behavior is normal.
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And they often don't. My mother is religious and I am not.

Humanity is far too complex of a system to make predictions based on a single factor. To say this is to be expected (that is, not a surprise) is a hasty generalization.
 
Upchurch said:
And they often don't. My mother is religious and I am not.

Humanity is far too complex of a system to make predictions based on a single factor. To say this is to be expected (that is, not a surprise) is a hasty generalization.
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Absolutely, to say (for example) that the children of University professors are more likely to graduate than the children of illiterate manual laborers would be a very hasty generalization that clearly in no way reflects the complex system of humanity.
 
Giz said:
Absolutely, to say (for example) that the children of University professors are more likely to graduate than the children of illiterate manual laborers would be a very hasty generalization that clearly in no way reflects the complex system of humanity.
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There is, at least, some data to support the idea that children of university-educated parents are more likely to excel at school. However, even then it isn't simple as it appears to be more true in England than in US, Australia, or Germany. As I said, you can't use a single factor and get a reliable prediction.
 
The protests/disturbances/whatever you want to call it are picking up steam again in Ferguson.
 
Upchurch said:
There is, at least, some data to support the idea that children of university-educated parents are more likely to excel at school. However, even then it isn't simple as it appears to be more true in England than in US, Australia, or Germany. As I said, you can't use a single factor and get a reliable prediction.
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First off, your link merely refers to children of university-educated parents versus non-college-educated parents. Giz's claim was about children of university professors (a more select, even more educated population than merely university-educated) versus children of illiterate manual laborers (a more select, even less educated population than merely non-university-educated). So the magnitude of the disparity is going to be amplified considerably for these more extreme populations. In other words, Giz's claim is absolutely true.

Will there be some outliers? Sure, but not very many. In terms of statistical probabilities, his distinction is indeed a very good predictor. It's foolish to insist that if a prediction isn't 100% accurate in every case, it's still not reliable. And yes, it's also true that the causes are complex. But whatever combination of genetics and environment, whatever contribution comes directly from their parents versus the different schools they are likely to attend versus their peer influences, these things are all still strongly correlated. Regardless of the exact mechanisms causation which lead to the observed correlation, the correlation is still there, and quite strong. Giz's claim is true.
 
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