Ebola in America

Dan O. said:
Right now it looks like the infection rate within the US is two new victims per fortnight per carrier.
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Except that's based on one case and ignoring the several other carriers that were brought into the US for treatment and saw no transmissions.

Calm the hell down people.
 
Does anyone believe the logic that not allowing flights from certain West African countries will be more dangerous to America?
We could not still get humanitarian aid into the area without commercial flights?



BTW personally I am against stopping flights and feel it is an overreaction.
 
Does anyone believe if President Obama had stopped flights his base would not be praising his action and most on the right would be condemning his action as a violation of freedom?
 
bonzombiekitty said:
Except that's based on one case and ignoring the several other carriers that were brought into the US for treatment and saw no transmissions.

Calm the hell down people.
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There is a little difference. Weren't all of the other cases brought directly to a specific hospital and flown in on private flights. If there ever was an outbreak can we expect carriers to be handled as well as the ones that did not see any transmissions. I doubt it but I also would expect procedures to be followed by most hospitals to be improved.
 
eeyore1954 said:
Does anyone believe if President Obama had stopped flights his base would not be praising his action and most on the right would be condemning his action as a violation of freedom?
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I can't speak for his base, but most on the right wouldn't be condemning him for stopping flights from outbreak countries. They'd still blame him for plenty of other stuff (like not stopping them soon enough, no handling other aspects of our response well, or for completely different issues), but not for that.
 
dudalb said:
Anybody else finding that TV News coverage of this deserves some kind of award for irresponsible fear mongering because fear brings Ratings?
And this applies to all the major News Networks. They are all milking this using fear.
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I can't speak for the US, but SKY's coverage is pretty terrible.

shuize said:
Yes, the country is in the very best of hands.

After coming into recent direct contact with the "explosive" Ebola patient, nurse Vinson apparently did not see any reason why she shouldn't hop on a plane to Cleveland. Where did she get her license, a box of Cracker Jacks?
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Geoffrey Platt was a microbiologist who knew he was working with Ebola; after his needle stick he went on holiday to London. People...
 
An epidemic of fear and anxiety
Across the country, workers and travelers took symbolic safety steps, wearing sanitary masks or lathering with hand sanitizer. Airline stocks fell as investors bet on a slowdown in travel due to Ebola concerns. Children living near Washington Dulles International Airport told a psychologist about their fears of contracting the disease.

Though Ebola’s dangers are real and terrifying, epidemiologists and other authorities say that, for now, its greatest mark could be on the psyche of the country where other health threats are more perilous.
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Last week, 200 airline cabin cleaners refused to report for work at LaGuardia Airport in New York, saying they did not have sufficient protection.

Michael Oberschneider, founder and director of Ashburn Psychological and Psychiatric Services, in Ashburn, Va., said that some of his child and teen patients have said they are fearful of visiting Texas or going to Dulles Airport, both of which they view as potential danger spots.

“Many of these kids are bringing up Ebola at the start of the session,” Oberschneider said. “And I’ll ask them, did you talk about it at school? They say, ‘No, no, no. I just saw it on CNN.’ ”
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Ziggurat said:
If people suspect that they have ebola, they're going to go to the hospital. Insurance will be a minor secondary concern.

And if we end up in a situation where it's pervasive enough that people with ebola won't suspect it, well, we've already failed at that point.
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You seem awfully confident in that statement. My personal experience says otherwise. I know when I had no insurance I once spent three days vomiting up blood before my family basically had enough and carried me into an ER. And while I lived I ended up with a huge bill I'm still making payments on.

If there is government declaration that the uninsured won't be responsible for their huge hospital bill then I can see everyone that thinks they have Ebola going into a hospital. But lacking that there definitely will be those that abstain because they hope they just have a stomach flu and can tough it out (as I tried to do that one time).
 
I can tell you with certainty that there's a group of people out there who will avoid going to a hospital even if they're ******** blood.
They're called the elderly.
 
eeyore1954 said:
Does anyone believe the logic that not allowing flights from certain West African countries will be more dangerous to America?
We could not still get humanitarian aid into the area without commercial flights?



BTW personally I am against stopping flights and feel it is an overreaction.
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Stopping flights from west Africa wont stop west Africans from going to other parts of Africa and flying out. In fact if you say, "we are going to shut down travel from west Africa" thousands of west Africans are going to try and flee the area.

Unless the entire world stopped flights out of all of Africa the sick will simply fly from another part to Europe, or Asia, or central America or any where else. Shutting down all of Africa is impossible.

Now it would be much much easier to close the border with Texas and stop all flights in and out of texas, blockade the ports and turn it into an containment area.
 
Stopping flights from Africa will not stop Ebola, but it will satisfy the xenophobia that infects a large number of American.
 
Kestrel said:
Stopping flights from Africa will not stop Ebola, but it will satisfy the xenophobia that infects a large number of American.
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No one is advocating stopping all flights from Africa;just those countries with a serious Ebola outbreak.
I am not sure how effective this would be,but to accuse anybody who advocates it as being xenophobic is a bit over the top . Seems to me that requiring a medical test before entry would be a resoanble compromise.
 
Kestrel said:
Stopping flights from Africa will not stop Ebola, but it will satisfy the xenophobia that infects a large number of American.
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Well, it won't stop Ebola virus now.

Actually, I take it back. Fewer infected people infecting nobody else in the US makes good sense.
 
And Fair or not, the CDC head is probably toast. Mistakes have been made, and heads must roll for political reasons if no other.
 
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