Ebola in America

More people will die of the flu this year, and yet it is perfectly legal to not get the flu vaccine.

Why do they hate America?
 
Belz... said:
Huh. "Compassion is a killer", he said. Reminds me of the nonsense Glenn Beck said about Obama, comparing him to Hitler, as he always does with everything, by noting that compassion leads to genocide.
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Kincannon has a long history of outrageous tweets,and seems to be an attention whore of the worst kind. Which is why the GOP in South Carolina has long ago disasociated themselves from him.
 
First Ebola patient diagnosed in US dies

The first Ebola patient diagnosed in the United States died Wednesday morning in a Dallas hospital Wednesday, a hospital spokesman said.

Thomas Eric Duncan was pronounced dead at 7:51 a.m. at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas, where he was admitted Sept. 28 and has been kept in isolation, according to spokesman Wendell Watson.

Duncan’s condition was changed on Saturday from serious to critical.
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casebro said:
Something for the Chicken Littles to consider-

What is the transmission rate in the First World countries? If you are not a health care worker, it is practically ZERO. And the death rate among those is also low.

Meantime, more people have died of Grizzly Bear attacks.
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Not zero. But small. I doubt the current conditions are there for a widespread outbreak. If an infected person pops up (travels in, or infected as health care worker etc.), s/he might infect the immediate family and acquaintances, but it wouldn't go far beyond that.

Two points why:

1) No hon-human hosts. There are (currently) no animals that carry the disease and can infect humans, or vice-versa.

2) Behavior is different and training with regards to hygiene are a lot better. For instance, I believe in some of the current African outbreak areas it is customary for family members to wash and get quite intimate with recently deceased, which are very infectious. I doubt that many people in Central Europe or North America would do that. We tend to leave that to professional strangers, who use lots of precautions.
 
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elgarak said:
Not zero. But small. I doubt the current conditions are there for a widespread outbreak. If an infected person pops up (travels in, or infected as health care worker etc.), s/he might infect the immediate family and acquaintances, but it wouldn't go far beyond that.

Two points why:

1) No hon-human hosts. There are (currently) no animals that carry the disease and can infect humans, or vice-versa.

2) Behavior is different and training with regards to hygiene are a lot better. For instance, I believe in some of the current African outbreak areas it is customary for family members to wash and get quite intimate with recently deceased, which are very infectious. I doubt that many people in Central Europe or North America would do that. We tend to leave that to professional strangers, who use lots of precautions.
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With both Marburg and Ebola, bats are believed to be carriers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_disease

So it certainly could happen, but humans in First World countries probably don't come into contact with these animals as frequently.
 
Lerxst said:
With both Marburg and Ebola, bats are believed to be carriers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_disease

So it certainly could happen, but humans in First World countries probably don't come into contact with these animals as frequently.
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I said currently.

I'm not aware of bats outside the tropics that feed on blood, so an infection from human to bats, or vice-versa, is quite unlikely.

The other possible vector from bats to humans is humans eating bats. Claimed to be common in current African outbreak areas. However, very rare in Central Europe (unheard of here) or North America (I once was in a barbecue shack in Florida that offered them. The proprietor was quick to point out that they were farm-raised and controlled, and what was on the plate of my friend was indistinguishable from poultry. He might have suckered my friend. I stuck with pork, which was excellent, BTW). Again, different customs.

I am not saying that some deadly disease could break out. There are some tropical fevers popping up here and there, mostly carried by biting insects like mosquitoes, or ticks. Some species of mosquitoes that is a typical carrier in tropical countries is becoming common across Germany, for instance. Fortunately, the mosquitoes are rarely carriers here. Changing climate and warming could increase that.

A widespread outbreak is just unlikely with the current strain of Ebola, with the current conditions.
 
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elgarak said:
I said currently.

I'm not aware of bats outside the tropics that feed on blood, so an infection from human to bats, or vice-versa, is quite unlikely.

The other possible vector from bats to humans is humans eating bats. Claimed to be common in current African outbreak areas. However, very rare in Central Europe (unheard of here) or North America (I once was in a barbecue shack in Florida that offered them. The proprietor was quick to point out that they were farm-raised and controlled, and what was on the plate was indistinguishable from poultry. He might have suckered us). Again, different customs.

I am not saying that some deadly disease could break out. There are some tropical fevers popping up here and there, mostly carried by biting insects like mosquitoes, or ticks. Some species of mosquitoes that is a typical carrier in tropical countries is becoming common across Germany, for instance. Fortunately, the mosquitoes are rarely carriers here. Changing climate and warming could increase that.

A widespread outbreak is just unlikely with the current strain of Ebola, with the current conditions.
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I think if we stay way from the bushmeat we're okay. :eek:

I do recall however a young man here in Texas (near Austin) that died of rabies. That's almost unheard of these days, but as it turns out this family commonly left their windows open at night and a bat carrying rabies bit the boy while he was sleeping. Not knowing this had happened, the family never sought treatment.
 
Possible new patient in Texas. We are in the middle of the prime period for people who have been exposed to Duncan to develop symptoms. The link is a video discussion. can't find any text articles on this new suspected victim.

http://www.msnbc.com/the-cycle/watch/possible-new-ebola-patient-in-texas-339118147976

I wonder if we are going to see any fakers reporting symptoms for attention or to scare people like those little bastards that call out SWAT teams for no reason. I am sure every flu will be treated as if it's ebola by the general public.
 
elgarak said:
I said currently.

I'm not aware of bats outside the tropics that feed on blood, so an infection from human to bats, or vice-versa, is quite unlikely.

The other possible vector from bats to humans is humans eating bats. Claimed to be common in current African outbreak areas. However, very rare in Central Europe (unheard of here) or North America (I once was in a barbecue shack in Florida that offered them. The proprietor was quick to point out that they were farm-raised and controlled, and what was on the plate of my friend was indistinguishable from poultry. He might have suckered my friend. I stuck with pork, which was excellent, BTW). Again, different customs.

I am not saying that some deadly disease could break out. There are some tropical fevers popping up here and there, mostly carried by biting insects like mosquitoes, or ticks. Some species of mosquitoes that is a typical carrier in tropical countries is becoming common across Germany, for instance. Fortunately, the mosquitoes are rarely carriers here. Changing climate and warming could increase that.

A widespread outbreak is just unlikely with the current strain of Ebola, with the current conditions.
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So bats taste just like chicken too?
The guy pushing the bat-b-que did know that bats aren't birds, right?
And, once again, I have to wonder, if bats taste just like chicken, why not just eat chicken? Seems like it'd be so much easier.
And all that doesn't even get into the whole, "Bat farm" concept...
 
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The new patient is a Sheriffs deputy who entered the Duncan apartment but was not being watched by the CDC for some reason. I feel more balls are being dropped than at a neuter your pet event.

The Frisco patient has been identified as a Dallas County deputy Michael Monnig, who was not one of the 48 people being monitored by federal, state and local health officials because he never had direct contact with the patient. Monnig responded and entered Duncan’s apartment.
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http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/10/08/frisco-patient-exhibiting-ebola-symptoms/
 
I'm a health care worker.
I think... I might not stop working at a hospital that began to care for Ebola virus patients... but knowing how poorly protocols are followed, are simply inadequate... I'd seriously question whether to get a different job. With a daughter to think about, I can't easily dismiss these thoughts. I probably carry MRSA right now despite universal precautions.
 
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