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Is this supposed to make sense? Maybe it's me, but I have absolutely no idea what this means.
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Continuation Part 10: Amanda Knox/Raffaele Sollecito
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Is this supposed to make sense? Maybe it's me, but I have absolutely no idea what this means.
Chris_Halkides
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Waiting for Godot
I believe that it refers to the translation of the Nencini motivations report that has yet to appear.
AmyStrange
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I know. You are one of the people I got those rumours from, but I didn't want to single you out specifically. Thank you for your honesty in owning up to it. That type of honesty is very refreshing.
It'd be nice, and I'd also have more respect for Platonov, if he would just admit he made a mistake when he posted that article and then intimated that the parallel was how Impers here were doing the same thing to the Kerchers which is laughingly not what the parallel really is.
And then, when he lied about people here abusing Meredith, and now can't come up with anything to back that lie up, is one of the many reasons why h/ she isn't taken seriously here, in my opinion,
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I know. You are one of the people I got those rumours from, but I didn't want to single you out specifically. Thank you for your honesty in owning up to it. That type of honesty is very refreshing.
It'd be nice, and I'd also have more respect for Platonov, if he would just admit he made a mistake when he posted that article and then intimated that the parallel was how Impers here were doing the same thing to the Kerchers which is laughingly not what the parallel really is.
And then, when he lied about people here abusing Meredith, and now can't come up with anything to back that lie up, is one of the many reasons why h/ she isn't taken seriously here, in my opinion,
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AmyStrange
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Well, at least you admit that first part. Good for you, and good luck with that last hilited part, but than again you might be right, in my opinion,
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-Indeed. I must look quite the fool
Thankfully everyone else will have forgotten about this episode by tomorrow.
Well, at least you admit that first part. Good for you, and good luck with that last hilited part, but than again you might be right, in my opinion,
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Desert Fox
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Were there these level of problems with previous translations?
AmyStrange
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Interesting article about the McCann suicide case by, none other than, Barbie Latza Nadeau herself. Especially noteworthy is the excerpt and the highlited part below:
FROM: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...ills-herself-but-millions-live-on-online.html
"After surveying more than 1,200 online community members who frequently comment and tweet, the study doctors came to the conclusion that internet trolls often exhibit traits known as the 'Dark Tetrad' of personality disorders: narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathic and sadistic tendencies. 'They share many characteristics of the classic 'joker villain: a modern variant of the Trickster archetype from ancient folkore... ''"
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Even the Meredith Kercher case is mention,
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Interesting article about the McCann suicide case by, none other than, Barbie Latza Nadeau herself. Especially noteworthy is the excerpt and the highlited part below:
FROM: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...ills-herself-but-millions-live-on-online.html
"After surveying more than 1,200 online community members who frequently comment and tweet, the study doctors came to the conclusion that internet trolls often exhibit traits known as the 'Dark Tetrad' of personality disorders: narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathic and sadistic tendencies. 'They share many characteristics of the classic 'joker villain: a modern variant of the Trickster archetype from ancient folkore... ''"
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Even the Meredith Kercher case is mention,
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I read most of the posts on most of the sites, which takes maybe 15 minutes a day, and often remember the outlier posts, and Jar ridiculed the early translated extracts of Nencini, for the obvious errors. It may go down in history as the worst document ever written by a trained judge. A perfect translation is going to be shredded by case experts, and eventually will hopefully work to convince the masses. It is likely that the translators are confronting personal demons, and realising that the two are innocent.
Jar is now calling the host sites to account, it is a truly interesting development.
ETA Jar's post has been removed, so "Skep" must have done this.
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carbonjam72
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The obvious parallel of guilters harassing Amanda & Raf, family friends and supporters, is a bridge too far for Ms Nadeau to grasp.
The most Ms Nadeau can offer to account for her own rancid behavior and vilifying reportage and unprincipled profiteering is, well, 'both sides do it'.
A false equivalence behind which ms Nadeau hopes to conceal her own responsibility for furthering a miscarriage of justice,
Every cent this "journalist" has collected should be clawed back, and Barbie herself should serve the same 4 years in capanne she so gleefully helped impose upon Amanda and Raf.
Maybe a moral amnesty should be granted to early retractors of their false statements.
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Generation Why Podcast:
The Case For Amanda Knox – 86 – Generation Why
"Why does Amanda Knox have support? Because no matter how much you believe that she had a hand in her roommate’s death, there remains contradictory evidence that casts some doubt on her conviction. For some, the evidence doesn’t just cast doubt, but completely removes her from the equation altogether. If you are not familiar with this case, we would urge you to read up on it before listening to this episode."
http://raasnio.com/GenerationWhyPodcast/the-case-for-amanda-knox/
The Case For Amanda Knox – 86 – Generation Why
"Why does Amanda Knox have support? Because no matter how much you believe that she had a hand in her roommate’s death, there remains contradictory evidence that casts some doubt on her conviction. For some, the evidence doesn’t just cast doubt, but completely removes her from the equation altogether. If you are not familiar with this case, we would urge you to read up on it before listening to this episode."
http://raasnio.com/GenerationWhyPodcast/the-case-for-amanda-knox/
AmyStrange
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Thanx Draca for posting this...
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In my opinion, it fairly described many of the problems with the case, especially the probabilities that the bra clasp was contaminated, the knife DNA was a joke, and even the contortions the prosecution went through to tie all three getting together to kill Meredith, not to mention the various motives. Plus, they questioned why LE didn't get the evidence together to prove the break-in really was staged. They thought that LE made a big mistake there.
My favorite part was how one of the speakers (there were two speakers) had been through a police interrogation before and could see how she might have been coerced to confess, and even though she did confess, she didn't really confess to the murder. They didn't like that she threw L under the bus, but they could understand why she did it.
They went over Amanda's weird behavior after the murder and didn't see how that was relevant (using personal experience to prove their point) and even questioned why many of the witnesses didn't come forward for months.
There's a lot more, and I highly recommend listening to it if you have the time. It's an audio recording and is almost an hour long.
Once again thanx Draca for posting this,
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In my opinion, it fairly described many of the problems with the case, especially the probabilities that the bra clasp was contaminated, the knife DNA was a joke, and even the contortions the prosecution went through to tie all three getting together to kill Meredith, not to mention the various motives. Plus, they questioned why LE didn't get the evidence together to prove the break-in really was staged. They thought that LE made a big mistake there.
My favorite part was how one of the speakers (there were two speakers) had been through a police interrogation before and could see how she might have been coerced to confess, and even though she did confess, she didn't really confess to the murder. They didn't like that she threw L under the bus, but they could understand why she did it.
They went over Amanda's weird behavior after the murder and didn't see how that was relevant (using personal experience to prove their point) and even questioned why many of the witnesses didn't come forward for months.
There's a lot more, and I highly recommend listening to it if you have the time. It's an audio recording and is almost an hour long.
Once again thanx Draca for posting this,
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acbytesla
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What the hell are you talking about Platonov? Seriously. While I see people disagreeing with the Kerchers' position on Knox/Sollecito's guilt, I really don't see any of Amanda's supporters "attacking" the Kerchers. In contrast, I have read several borderline death threats posted by members of PMF, TJMK.
I don't like the Kerchers attitudes toward Amanda and Raffaele, I have no ill will toward them. I just disagree with them. (There is a difference)
And yes, Amanda Knox is a victim. While Meredith lost her life, Amanda has had to endure a lot. She lost 4 years of her life. And she has had to live the last several years with a cloud over her head.
I know, you have no empathy or sympathy for her. But I'm curious, would you if you knew she was innocent? Or would you think "so what"?
I think it is lost on her that the basic job description of a tabloid journalist (and especially Daily Mail) is 'professional troll'. They don't care about truth and aim to create the story that will cause most the controversy and outrage, in order to get more sales/hits
It's now all the rage on twitter, the PMF and pro-Guede posters are taking screen prints of anything even mildly critical of the Kercher family, written on IIP or anywhere else, and are tweeting these to journalists and claiming that AK fans are abusing the Kerchers. These people are seriously unhinged
Fans is obviously a perjorative word loved by these people. It does not represent the feeling in my bones, but I will say that Amanda is the underdog, and I definitely want her to win this war. (battle would not be accurate).
I have no access to the wrongful mental state of the victim's family, except to conclude they have a pact operating.
AmyStrange
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Projection of their own worst qualities onto others, so they don't have to face the revolting truth about themselves, and their own abominable behavior.
Exactly this - and by claiming that the Kercher family are being continually trolled and abused, it means they can take the moral high-ground and re-cast themselves as the Kercher family defenders. It's all ridiculous
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I would say 99% of people who post on either side of this case are not spokes people for Kercher, Sollecito or Knox families they largely expressing their own opinions warped or otherwise, took me awhile to understand this, so now I just ignore their comments.Exactly this - and by claiming that the Kercher family are being continually trolled and abused, it means they can take the moral high-ground and re-cast themselves as the Kercher family defenders. It's all ridiculous
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So, where do you stand? Are you in the 99% group that should be ignored or are you here as a representative of the Kercher family?
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