The Metaphysical Consciousness

Slowvehicle said:
I apologize for being amused by a typo.
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No harm done.

Slowvehicle said:
What made it (and makes today's episiode) woo!-speak is the misapplication of common vocabulary words to assertions about physics-y stuff that are not supported.
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Alpha brain's wave correlations during TM practice are scientifically measured by many scientific experiments, during the past 30 years.

These brain's wave correlations are one case of the concrete examples of The Theory Of The Unified Field.

Generally, The Theory Of The Unified Field is easily correlated with Physics' common vocabulary, since Einstein (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_field_theory).
 
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See? Sciency. So sciency with science-science, sciencing quantum field alpha waving scienciously.

Be unified in peace,
Ohm Volta Over Ampere.
 
Thanks, read it again; a great read. It is all about integrity; being curious and never satisfied with error.
 
doronshadmi said:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10138934&postcount=176
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ah yes, for some reason you are proud of this exchange. A point is a theoretical limit, and an analogy to a point is a further degree of separation.

I suppose it is not going to do much good to point out that a lever is a machine whose properties are known. Levers actually exist, and engineers can use the enumerated properties of levers to achieve predictable results from machines that use them.

My avatar does indeed include levers (kindly and memorably animated by Paul Hoff). The machine shown actually exists. It digs real holes in the real earth.
 
bruto said:
ah yes, for some reason you are proud of this exchange. A point is a theoretical limit, and an analogy to a point is a further degree of separation.

I suppose it is not going to do much good to point out that a lever is a machine whose properties are known. Levers actually exist, and engineers can use the enumerated properties of levers to achieve predictable results from machines that use them.

My avatar does indeed include levers (kindly and memorably animated by Paul Hoff). The machine shown actually exists. It digs real holes in the real earth.
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The Rational Gospel:

Yea if thou hast faith1 even as small as a mustard seed thou shalt tell the mountain to move and lo it moves.

Note 1: A big earth mover helps.
 
Heh. English usage: Stable is the opposite of unstable, stability is the opposite of instability.

Insatiable is the opposite of satiable. (Meaning: Not possible to satisfy. Bottomless in appetite.)

Example, hipster lingo: Dean dug Bird, with an insatiable appetite for his music.
 
bruto said:
My avatar does indeed include levers
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It does use the principle of lever, where one side is stable and the other side is not.

Without the two principles (stability and instability) in the same instrument, it can't dig by using its full efficiency.

So is the case about your awareness, without the two principles (stability and instability) in the same system, it can't express its full efficiency.

If your awareness gets itself only at its unstable aspect (only at the level of thoughts' process), it does not mean that its stable aspect does not exist, you simply get limited results, which are in direct proportionality with your inability to act right from the stable (calm) state of awareness.
 
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doronshadmi said:
It does use the principle of lever, where one side is stable and the other side is not.

Without the two principles (stability and instability) in the same instrument, it can't dig by using its full efficiency.

So is the case about your awareness, without the two principles (stability and instability) in the same system, it can't express its full efficiency.

If your awareness gets itself only at its unstable aspect (only at the level of thoughts' process), it does not mean that its stable aspect does not exist, you simply get limited results, which are in direct proportionality with your inability to act right from the stable state of awareness.
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You seem to be ignoring the fact that a shovel is a third-class lever can be used to dig, with two (what you call) "unstable ends".
 
doronshadmi said:
It does use the principle of lever, where one side is stable and the other side is not.

Without the two principles (stability and instability) in the same instrument, it can't dig by using its full efficiency.

So is the case about your awareness, without the two principles (stability and instability) in the same system, it can't express its full efficiency.

If your awareness gets itself only at its unstable aspect (only at the level of thoughts' process), it does not mean that its stable aspect does not exist, you simply get limited results, which are in direct proportionality with your inability to act right from the stable (calm) state of awareness.
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I dont suppose it should be too surprising that you seem to have found an entirely new and unique way of defining what a lever is and what it does.

Since a lever is one piece of material with a fulcrum, not surprisingly one might as easily point out that at no time is one end more or less stable than the other. Unless, of course, your lever is defective and bends in the middle. Of course mystical levers may come in two pieces and work by telekinesis perhaps. That may explain why the material being spread here is so messily dispersed.
 
doronshadmi said:
It does use the principle of lever, where one side is stable and the other side is not.

Without the two principles (stability and instability) in the same instrument, it can't dig by using its full efficiency. So is the case about your awareness, without the two principles (stability and instability) in the same system, it can't express its full efficiency.

If your awareness gets itself only at its unstable aspect (only at the level of thoughts' process), it does not mean that its stable aspect does not exist, you simply get limited results, which are in direct proportionality with your inability to act right from the stable (calm) state of awareness.
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That's so true why just the other day I was digging a hole and when I threw the dirt out of the hole with the shovel my end became unstable and threw me clean out of the galaxy, took me forever to work my way back by the black hole route.
 
I recall once, I think it was Russel Baker commenting on Nixon, but worth re-applying: a man with the courage to call a spade a manual excavation implement.
 
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bruto said:
Since a lever is one piece of material with a fulcrum, not surprisingly one might as easily point out that at no time is one end more or less stable than the other.
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Since a lever is one piece of material with a fulcrum, not surprisingly one might as easily point out (hmm, an interesting expression) that at any time the fulcrum is its stable state with respect to its other working parts.
 
Slowvehicle said:
You seem to be ignoring the fact that a shovel is a third-class lever can be used to dig, with two (what you call) "unstable ends".
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You seem to be ignoring that no matter how many unstable states are, there must be a stable state in order to be considered as a lever, in any class.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYXCMs4a4BY is a nice video, which demonstrates the lever's principle in gears.

Smaller the gear (or wheel) is, its efficiency to move heavier weights is increased, where the needed length that is used in order to do that, is reduced (4:44 from the beginning of the video, which is demonstrated by two wheels with different sizes).

The reason is very simple, more we close to the center of a rotating gear (or wheel) , more power is evadable to move heavier weights by less needed length.

So is the case about one's awareness, more it is closed to its self state (equivalent to the center of a rotating gear (or wheel)) more power is evadable for thoughts' process by less needed space\time.
 
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Donn said:
Evadable is precisely the right word to use.
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Another speller's typo. The right one is available.

So the right one is:

"The reason is very simple, more we close to the center of a rotating gear (or wheel) , more power is available to move heavier weights by less needed length.

So is the case about one's awareness, more it is closed to its self state (equivalent to the center of a rotating gear (or wheel)) more power is available for thoughts' process by less needed space\time."

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So Donn, by being based of typos you are satisfied that you've heard enough from TM aficionados to get the gist of their side, isn't it?

Indeed a "great" balanced view of yours on the discussed subject.

Donn said:
At any point I could, and did, open a new tab and go look for balance.
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No evidence to this claim of yours.
 
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doronshadmi said:
Since a lever is one piece of material with a fulcrum, not surprisingly one might as easily point out (hmm, an interesting expression) that at any time the fulcrum is its stable state with respect to its other working parts.
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I suppose you might, if you casually abandoned what you said before and said something else entirely. Not that you'd be making any real sense anyway, but things certainly are easier if you can simply disavow a statement when it's challenged, and pretend you said something else.
 
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