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Gamolon said:
This may have been discussed before.

What was the trajectory of the GNP that Dan actually saw as it passed the fire? You say it was possibly thrown from a bigfoot, but your wording and "tests" were dropped from over head. Also, as Dan saw it come in past the fire, did he have an idea as to which direction it came from? Did you look for clues in the direction it came from?
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Nevermind.

I found the original story.
 
LTC8K6 said:
How many times had the others been out?
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It was Dan's first time attending. Ed and Mary are married, and for Ed, it was his third, and Mary her second.

I've been out with Dan and Ed multiple times since that expedition, and will be going with them again this Friday.
 
You should surprise them all, and speak frankly with them, "I know one of you threw that Good and Plenty, I was just playing along to make the atmosphere Bigfooty"

See if any of them cop to it.
 
Northern Lights said:
It was my second time out, so I had no clue what to do or how to handle anything remotely considered evidence.
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What is the purpose of going out to the woods Northern Lights?

Is it to find evidence of Bigfoot?

If it is to find Bigfoot or evidence of Bigfoot, then collecting evidence should
be one of your skills.

Bring gloves and paper bags. When Good and Plentys fall from the sky
(you and your colleagues think BF), put on the gloves, and put the candies
in the paper bag or envelope.

Same for the plentiful poop.

If I am incorrect in this simple evidence collecting strategy, I am sure there
is someone here to correct me. (I hope they do!) :)

Not knowing how (or at least learning) to collect evidence is a contradiction to going out to the woods and trying to find and/or proving Bigfoot.

If you are going out again this weekend, maybe you could learn some techniques for collecting evidence before you go. Be prepared.
 
wicked_ways said:
What is the purpose of going out to the woods Northern Lights?

Is it to find evidence of Bigfoot?

If it is to find Bigfoot or evidence of Bigfoot, then collecting evidence should
be one of your skills.

Bring gloves and paper bags. When Good and Plentys fall from the sky
(you and your colleagues think BF), put on the gloves, and put the candies
in the paper bag or envelope.

Same for the plentiful poop.

If I am incorrect in this simple evidence collecting strategy, I am sure there
is someone here to correct me. (I hope they do!) :)

Not knowing how (or at least learning) to collect evidence is a contradiction to going out to the woods and trying to find and/or proving Bigfoot.

If you are going out again this weekend, maybe you could learn some techniques for collecting evidence before you go. Be prepared.
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I've got my full kit. Rubber gloves, ziplock baggies, tweezers, magnifying glass, tape measure, camera, sharpie, hydracal, gps, etc., all packed and ready for this weekend.
 
Bigfoot skepticism feels so weird right now in the summer of 2014. Bigfootery is obviously role-playing and pretend and it's harder to find purpose and meaning in denying Bigfoot. What's the point when believers don't even believe?
 
The Shrike said:
Occam's Razor provides no help in deciding the likely explanation between the two alternatives of Scenario 1. I maintain, however, that it is useful in deciding the likely explanation between Scenario 1 and Scenario 2.
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How can Occam's Razor decide anything when Occam only meant to suggest the best way to prepare any thesis regardless of whether it is true or false? You know quite well that truths about the natural world can hardly be established from an armchair. But the modern interpretation/application of the Razor is to try to pick between competing theses from your armchair by determining which one is more simplistic. That can't work very well.

If Bigfoot exists then it can almost certainly throw a GNP at a camper.

If we reduce it all to the (more proper) competing theses of:

1. Bigfoot exists.
2. Bigfoot does not exist.

We reach a dilemma of sorts because we cannot agree upon which thesis is more simple and not burdened with assumptions and added assertions that are unnecessary.

You said...

The Shrike said:
Occam's Razor/parsimony dictates that the simplest explanation is very likely the correct one
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I say that that isn't what Occam's Razor is really about and is instead a modern interpretation tailored for the Internet age and further I say that very often people cannot even properly agree upon which explanation is more simple. I disagree with evoking Occam's Razor as a way of casually pointing out that any thesis is likely true or untrue. Those determinations require work beyond the armchair and keyboard.
 
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Northern Lights said:
I've got my full kit. Rubber gloves, ziplock baggies, tweezers, magnifying glass, tape measure, camera, sharpie, hydracal, gps, etc., all packed and ready for this weekend.
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And what kind of chocolate bar will you be tempting the Big Lad with this time, a Milky Way? Jesus feckin' Christ, I've heard it all now...
 
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For baiting, try Zagnut bars and bean cans... They are know to like them.

Maybe you should consult with people like Bulletmaker and Creekfreak. They have field experience in habituation. It would be nice for you to compare their notes and methods with Moneymakers'.

Oh, that was sarcasm.
 
William Parcher said:
Bigfoot skepticism feels so weird right now in the summer of 2014. Bigfootery is obviously role-playing and pretend and it's harder to find purpose and meaning in denying Bigfoot. What's the point when believers don't even believe?
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It almost seems like they are forcing themselves to believe.

I still maintain there is a correlation between mental disorders and Bigfoot.

If not just for the hallucination factor, but for the belief factor.


I have long held that Bigfoot belief is an emotional response to a misinterpretation of stimuli, either because the person is afraid to admit such a fault, due to the idea that people will label them 'crazy', or due to an inability to differentiate between reality and false perceptions.

I have found a paper which I think interprets this quite well. It relates to paranormal belief, and I think it parallels with Bigfoot quite well.

In any event the study does indicate that at least some cognitive
processes associated with the formation of psychotic delusions are linked
also with the intensity of paranormal beliefs. This inference need not imply
that paranormal beliefs themselves are delusory. Certainly delusions and
paranormal beliefs have some features in common; both are persistently
held notions and are resistant to the influence of counterargument, but then
so too are many rational beliefs. Psychotic delusions nevertheless are
generally deemed to be unjustified, whereas the falsity of many paranormal
beliefs remains an unresolved issue. It would therefore be premature to
appeal to our findings in order to justify the view that paranormal beliefs
necessarily are delusions. Be that as it may, at least in part such beliefs
evidently do arise from, and indeed may be maintained by, distortions in
reasoning.
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You can get a free download of the paper here, you have to sign in with Google+ or Email
http://www.academia.edu/6423343/Par...asoning_underlying_the_formation_of_delusions
 
The guy that had the encounter there? He will make sure you have an encounter, don't worry.
 
Northern Lights said:
I have no idea. We are going to a new location along with a guy that had an encounter there, but that was last fall. I'm going to enjoy it, regardless.
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Lots of Minnesota footies it seems. Funny though that the Ojibwe never seem to have bagged one, nor the Europeans that shot, trapped, whacked and stabbed everything in sight, then cut down the trees. Ditto the Scanda/Germanic farmers and settlers. Even now with the bowhunters, the muzzleloaders, the rifle guys, not a single footster bagged.

Funny, that.
 
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