Enough to make one support the death penalty...

[PhantomWolf]

I didn't see a thread on this, but it made me sooo mad.

https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/23980573/protests-over-rape-killing-of-indian-girls/

I'm glad that there are a lot of sane people in India protesting the actions of these... sub animal-kind (calling them animals is insulting to animals because even they don't do this sort of rabid and disgusting behaviour.)

Worse still is that two of the pack were supposed to be the very people that should have protected them from the bottom feeding scum.

Seems to me that this is the sort of stuff we need to be outraged over rather than a bit of photoshopping!

These sort of creatures need to be removed from society, permanently.

 

[Jim_MDP]

I'm trying to avoid these topics but... the problem is societal, not solely these murdering rapist scum.

What coverage I couldn't avoid earlier, what caught my ear was that the police ignored the situation for a day or more before being what... embarrassed into opening an investigation.

How, where to even begin.

 

[Arcade22]

Yes, they are less than animals! You sure showed them there all right! You showed them all!

 

[trustbutverify]

I didn't see a thread on this, but it made me sooo mad.

https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/23980573/protests-over-rape-killing-of-indian-girls/

I'm glad that there are a lot of sane people in India protesting the actions of these... sub animal-kind (calling them animals is insulting to animals because even they don't do this sort of rabid and disgusting behaviour.)

Worse still is that two of the pack were supposed to be the very people that should have protected them from the bottom feeding scum.

Seems to me that this is the sort of stuff we need to be outraged over rather than a bit of photoshopping!

These sort of creatures need to be removed from society, permanently.

It's because of Yankistan hegemony.

 

[Trakar]

I didn't see a thread on this, but it made me sooo mad.

https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/23980573/protests-over-rape-killing-of-indian-girls/

I'm glad that there are a lot of sane people in India protesting the actions of these... sub animal-kind (calling them animals is insulting to animals because even they don't do this sort of rabid and disgusting behaviour.)

Worse still is that two of the pack were supposed to be the very people that should have protected them from the bottom feeding scum.

Seems to me that this is the sort of stuff we need to be outraged over rather than a bit of photoshopping!

These sort of creatures need to be removed from society, permanently.

I guess I'll never understand what stimulates the desire of people to follow the example, and out do it, when one group of people decides to act in an inhumane and uncivil manner.

violence against, or in response to, violence, is still violence. If violence is wrong, it should generally remain wrong regardless of who initiates it or what justification they use for it. These individuals felt that they were morally and ethically justified in their actions.

 

[trustbutverify]

I guess I'll never understand what stimulates the desire of people to follow the example, and out do it, when one group of people decides to act in an inhumane and uncivil manner.

If you think desiring the deaths of people who gang rape and then hang girls is "outdoing" people who gang rape and then hang girls, I'd say your priorities are massively misaligned.

 

[Trakar]

If you think desiring the deaths of people who gang rape and then hang girls is "outdoing" people who gang rape and then hang girls, I'd say you're priorities are massively misaligned.

My priority is to get people to quit resorting to violence to demonstrate how righteous they are in their moral and ethical beliefs.

 

[tyr_13]

 

[trustbutverify]

My priority is to get people to quit resorting to violence to demonstrate how righteous they are in their moral and ethical beliefs.

Hopefully, these misdirected fellows won't be jailed for their "uncivil" behavior, since forced imprisonment is a form of violence... and we certainly wouldn't want to "out do" their violent behavior. After all, they were under the impression that savagely gang raping terrified teenage girls, and then stringing them up until they died in unimaginable agony was an act of moral integrity. These slightly confused men need a little reeducation, not more violence in the form of forced imprisonment as a demonstration of moral and ethical righteousness.

 

[mijopaalmc]

Hopefully, these misdirected fellows won't be jailed for their "uncivil" behavior, since forced imprisonment is a form of violence... and we certainly wouldn't want to "out do" their violent behavior. After all, they were under the impression that savagely gang raping terrified teenage girls, and then stringing them up until they died in unimaginable agony was an act of moral integrity. These slightly confused men need a little reeducation, not more violence in the form of forced imprisonment as a demonstration of moral and ethical righteousness.

Cool straw man, bro.

 

[MontagK505]

I guess I'll never understand what stimulates the desire of people to follow the example, and out do it, when one group of people decides to act in an inhumane and uncivil manner.

violence against, or in response to, violence, is still violence. If violence is wrong, it should generally remain wrong regardless of who initiates it or what justification they use for it. These individuals felt that they were morally and ethically justified in their actions.

It's not violence as such, it's the context in which violence is applied. At one extreme, a pure pacifistic approach to violence is morally wrong, because one psychotic could kill an entire village of pacifists, which results in a far greater number of deaths. The opposite extreme enforces the idea that "Might Makes Right" where violence is the correct response to any wrong doing. Honor killings would be an obvious example.

 

[trustbutverify]

Cool straw man, bro.

Thanks!!

 

[Trakar]

It's not violence as such, it's the context in which violence is applied. At one extreme, a pure pacifistic approach to violence is morally wrong, because one psychotic could kill an entire village of pacifists, which results in a far greater number of deaths. The opposite extreme enforces the idea that "Might Makes Right" where violence is the correct response to any wrong doing. Honor killings would be an obvious example.

I'm not saying that violent acts are never an option, merely that they are always a regrettable and undesirable option. It is the attempted moral justification and lynch-mob mentality for the taking of a human life that is obscene, and exemplifies the types of "our group" righteous indignations...in a much exaggerated manner...that seem to have triggered this unfortunate and very sad torture and murder.

To my thinking, "it is proper to kill someone, because they have killed people," is a circular and ethically flawed supporting argument to make as a justification for taking a human life. Killing is always wrong, society may choose not to punish those who kill under some circumstances but regardless of what society condemns or condones, killing should never be seen as a good and desirous event.

 

[MontagK505]

I'm not saying that violent acts are never an option, merely that they are always a regrettable and undesirable option. It is the attempted moral justification and lynch-mob mentality for the taking of a human life that is obscene, and exemplifies the types of "our group" righteous indignations...in a much exaggerated manner...that seem to have triggered this unfortunate and very sad torture and murder.

To my thinking, "it is proper to kill someone, because they have killed people," is a circular and ethically flawed supporting argument to make as a justification for taking a human life. Killing is always wrong, society may choose not to punish those who kill under some circumstances but regardless of what society condemns or condones, killing should never be seen as a good and desirous event.

If killing is necessary to save my life, the life of someone I care about or even the life of a stranger it is in fact a desirable event. It is not wrong to do so. Now admittedly, it's highly unlikely I would dance on the grave of someone I was forced by circumstance to kill, in fact, I would be very unhappy, but I wouldn't regard it is wrong.

 

[ehcks]

If killing is necessary to save my life, the life of someone I care about or even the life of a stranger it is in fact a desirable event. It is not wrong to do so. Now admittedly, it's highly unlikely I would dance on the grave of someone I was forced by circumstance to kill, in fact, I would be very unhappy, but I wouldn't regard it is wrong.

That you would feel unhappy about it shows that you think it's a bad thing.

Less bad than dying, but certainly not good.

 

[PhantomWolf]

I guess I'll never understand what stimulates the desire of people to follow the example, and out do it, when one group of people decides to act in an inhumane and uncivil manner.

violence against, or in response to, violence, is still violence. If violence is wrong, it should generally remain wrong regardless of who initiates it or what justification they use for it. These individuals felt that they were morally and ethically justified in their actions.

It seems you are more upset by the fact that these vermin are going to be sentenced to death for their gang rape and lynching of a pair of young children that you are by their sickening actions.

 

[fuelair]

I guess I'll never understand what stimulates the desire of people to follow the example, and out do it, when one group of people decides to act in an inhumane and uncivil manner.

violence against, or in response to, violence, is still violence. If violence is wrong, it should generally remain wrong regardless of who initiates it or what justification they use for it. These individuals felt that they were morally and ethically justified in their actions.

Not really.

 

[Anerystos]

One of the problems I have with this kind of thread is the way in which respondents launch into language like “scum” and “vermin”.

Please address the problem and not just hurl abuse: if your vocabulary is that limited please try to expand it. Verbal abuse adds nothing to the discussion except allows others to find reasons to ignore what you say.

 

[Caper]

One of the problems I have with this kind of thread is the way in which respondents launch into language like “scum” and “vermin”.

Please address the problem and not just hurl abuse: if your vocabulary is that limited please try to expand it. Verbal abuse adds nothing to the discussion except allows others to find reasons to ignore what you say.

Why would you need to expand your vocabulary if "scum" and "vermin" work so well?

 

[Blue Mountain]

I guess I'll never understand what stimulates the desire of people to follow the example, and out do it, when one group of people decides to act in an inhumane and uncivil manner.

violence against, or in response to, violence, is still violence. If violence is wrong, it should generally remain wrong regardless of who initiates it or what justification they use for it. These individuals felt that they were morally and ethically justified in their actions.

In general I agree with you. But here we have two deed teen-aged girls, brutally murdered and their bodies left hanging in a tree. What is the appropriate punishment for the perpetrators?