a_unique_person
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No, when it comes to climate change, he has published nothing of worth.
They compete, and leave in the dust.
A worthless survey that published fictional results.
It's warming.
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No, when it comes to climate change, he has published nothing of worth.
They compete, and leave in the dust.
A worthless survey that published fictional results.
It's warming.
CapelDodger
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So not only have we had Al Gore of late, now we have John Kerry. One can understand why some people think the subject has become politicised.
For those who don't follow the US political scene, John Kerry is another retired US politician who couldn't beat a chimp to the White House. He is also, clearly, another hot-button name for the US denial tribe.
For those who don't follow the US political scene, John Kerry is another retired US politician who couldn't beat a chimp to the White House. He is also, clearly, another hot-button name for the US denial tribe.
a_unique_person
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Last 16 years, lets try the Wood For Trees index of the major temperature records.
That sure looks like the temperature is going down, doesn't it. Especially since the starting point is cherry picked.
How about an Ordinary Least Squares trend line?
Wait, the trend is up. Just goes to show, better of actually doing the maths than just using the eyeball, sometimes.
That sure looks like the temperature is going down, doesn't it. Especially since the starting point is cherry picked.
How about an Ordinary Least Squares trend line?
Wait, the trend is up. Just goes to show, better of actually doing the maths than just using the eyeball, sometimes.
aleCcowaN
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Yes, but use the same scale in the y-axis. Otherwise is just more of what denialists do. You don't want to be like them.
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and not to forget, the WTI is off a bit as it also includes the RSS dataset which still uses the old Sat NOAA 15 that is loosing speed.
aleCcowaN
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A little test:
So far, since the inception of electric light, the month with the highest global temperatures has been July 1998, followed by July 2010 less than a tenth of a degree behind. True of false?
Since the beginning of the year, the global average temperature has increased some 2.5°C. Is it true? If that is true, has the planet become warmer since January 1st?
So far, since the inception of electric light, the month with the highest global temperatures has been July 1998, followed by July 2010 less than a tenth of a degree behind. True of false?
Since the beginning of the year, the global average temperature has increased some 2.5°C. Is it true? If that is true, has the planet become warmer since January 1st?
CapelDodger
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Not for your affections they can't, but do they really want to? I don't think so.
Trakar
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He's retired and serving as Secretary of State? Figures, Poor retirees in this country have to take on part-time work to survive, I wish the poor gentleman good luck!
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what is his biggest contribution to our understanding of the climate system?
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Badly written op-ed that is trying to make up it’s own facts instead of using real ones. All the reliable research shows ~97% of publishing climate scientists agree the earth is warming rapidly due to human influence. Your op-ed however has decided that papers in high profile peer reviewed journals are somehow unreliable and long debunked blogs are somehow more reliable.
Take the Oreskes paper for example, since it’s been out the longest and has had the most opportunity for a paper responding to it to be published. To date however this hasn’t happed. The op-ed cites people, some of whom do publish climate science papers, who dispute the consensus, but it’s important to realize that while these people do in fact dispute the consensus opinion THEIR PAPERS DO NOT.
I’ll leave it to you to wonder why they take a public position they can’t support with their published papers...
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macdoc
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No - they do not consume it. They uptake CO2 as part of the their biological cycle and sequester carbon unless burned or decayed.
They sequester carbon while living and growing...releasing back into the atmosphere unless deeply buried.
Which in the mose part is what oil and coal are ....sequestered plant carbon.
We have released it back into circulation in the atmosphere and it's getting warmer as a result.
Now that you have a better understanding...what is your point.?
Plants won't fix fossil carbon and the heat increase our use of it has engendered.
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a_unique_person
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The trend is positive, which may surprise the casual eyeball examiner, for this is for a time period that has been cherry picked on purpose since it starts right on a peak.
If we just take GISTEMP on it's own, the trend is even stronger.
CapelDodger
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I like that and will no doubt steal it. Just giving you fair warning
.As I recall their error-bars overlap, so likely true.
I don't know. Is it very unusual during this time of year?
One would need to integrate the global radiative imbalance to determine that. In terms of the surface temperature the central Pacific has warmed up a lot over that period, with the heat coming up from below. That will be sending more heat into space than the previous conditions so the system might actually be cooling (but appear to be warming to us surface-dwellers).
Or not, whatever
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In the NH it usually gets warmer. There are these things called seasons.
aleCcowaN
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http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/thum_602538503dc36b64.jpg
The trend is positive, which may surprise the casual eyeball examiner, for this is for a time period that has been cherry picked on purpose since it starts right on a peak.
If we just take GISTEMP on it's own, the trend is even stronger.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/thum_602538504d1b42e7.jpg
Do you remember that we did that several months ago and the trend was positive? In fact your last graphic reinforces something we had done then, every month the trend becomes increasingly positive as the cherrypicked denialist event at the beginning -together with the record Niño that happened that couple of years- become increasingly diluted in the more general warming trend.
aleCcowaN
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I like that and will no doubt steal it. Just giving you fair warning
As I recall their error-bars overlap, so likely true.
I don't know. Is it very unusual during this time of year?
One would need to integrate the global radiative imbalance to determine that. In terms of the surface temperature the central Pacific has warmed up a lot over that period, with the heat coming up from below. That will be sending more heat into space than the previous conditions so the system might actually be cooling (but appear to be warming to us surface-dwellers).
Or not, whatever
At last, a courageous chevalier who dares to reply my questions!
I am worried about how most of the habitués in this thread have got accustomed to the extremely low level of the denialists that all their knowledge about how the planet works is increasingly wearing off. Particularly, discussing with doofus denialists that claim "it's the sun" and couldn't fathom what a greenhouse gas is if they bonafide tried or even if their life depended on that, has made everybody forget the fundamentals.
About the answers, you're not off but they have to be more conclusive, because it has consequences in all the analysis of what would happen in the next 24 months. So, to make it easier, I'm going to give the answers and I'll be only asking "why is it that way?"
Question 1: True (Why is it not February 1998)
Question 2: Yes, about that value (Is it normal!?)
Question 3: Clearly, it has become much much colder (or not?)
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Reality Check
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What about him, ABC10?
What about the inane Oregon petition signed briefly by people like Charles Darwin, members of the Spice Girls and characters from Star Wars, ABC10
!What about the petition idiocy of thinking that a random PHD (e.g. in medicine!) magically makes someone an expert in climate science?
31,000 "Scientists" (Some Dead) Refute Global Warming
Over 31,000 scientists signed the OISM Petition Project
What about your continued ignorance about this, ABC10?
There has been warming over the last 16 years (just not as much as in the previous decades).
We are responsible to the warming of the climate according to the 97% consensus in climate science, ABC10!
You know - the people who are experts in what is going on
!
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