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Split Thread Scorpion's Spiritualism

Yea, why not take away everyones hope. Not like they might have needed their beliefs or anything.

Another thing.
As per my experience of your recent posts concerning mstricky's claims to suicidal behavior, they (your posts) represent the most reprehensible and disgusting aspect of irrational behavior.
 
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You're offering false hope.

Tell it to little old ladys in Russia that were put in mental hospitals for believing in God. During Stalins time they were given aversion therapy in hospitals, but when they were finally released they went back to church.
 
Tell it to little old ladys in Russia that were put in mental hospitals for believing in God. During Stalins time they were given aversion therapy in hospitals, but when they were finally released they went back to church.

Did they go to your 'spiritual church'?
 
Tell it to little old ladys in Russia that were put in mental hospitals for believing in God. During Stalins time they were given aversion therapy in hospitals, but when they were finally released they went back to church.

So what? The best you can offer in this thread to someone struggling with suicidal depression is a link to a qualified medical professional and/or center, such as the NHS link. Anything else is just quackery. Since the NHS link has been posted, and solid advice offered to seek help from a qualified professional, why don't you try leaving it up the lady to pursue that, and back out of the conversation? She may benefit from spiritual sustenance, if those are her beliefs, but she needs more than just that if she is truly suicidal.

Who gives a **** about little old ladies in Russia?
 
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Another thing.

As per my experience of your recent posts concerning mstricky's claims to suicidal behavior, they represent the most reprehensible and disgusting aspect of irrational behavior.


Indeed.

MS, you must talk to someone.
Talking is more important than many of us realise.
The imagined stigma is as imaginary as Scorpions third eye.
Family/friends/GP, hell, I'll be back in Bolton soon I'll give you my phone number and listen.
 
So, religious repression has been tried and failed. You cannot crush the God out of peoples hearts.

Well, apparently, if she is suicidally depressed, God isn't doing her much good right now.

Jesus, man, she needs help from a health professional, not a spiritual church. No one here is trying to "religiously repress" her, just advise her to the best help for her.

Get a grip.
 
So what? The best you can offer in this thread to someone struggling with suicidal depression is a link to a qualified medical professional and/or center, such as the NHS link. Anything else is just quackery. Since the NHS link has been posted, and solid advice offered to seek help from a qualified professional, why don't you try leaving it up the lady to pursue that, and back out of the conversation? She may benefit from spiritual sustenance, if those are her beliefs, but she needs more than just that if she is truly suicidal.

See my post 641 where I explain the processes of getting psychiatric help in England.
 
See my post 641 where I explain the processes of getting psychiatric help in England.


Meanwhile, back in the real world:
http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/AboutNHSservices/mentalhealthservices/Pages/Availableservices.aspx

The Samaritans, non- religious organisation just in case any Russian ladies from last century are reading this, is a good starting point.
Phone call is quickest. They won't judge.
An in person visit is available. They have an office on Oxford Street.
0161 236 8000
The national number is 08457 909090
Email is an option but looks like it could be a slower process.
jo@samaritans.org
 
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See my post 641 where I explain the processes of getting psychiatric help in England.

Fine. Now can you stop blathering on about old Russian women and religious repression? It really has nothing to do with aiding someone struggling with clinical depression.
 
Have you ever been to a spiritualist church? because that is what I am advising. Going to church and getting spiritual healing. How exactly is that dangerous?

The placebo effect for one. Someone become so jumped up on good vibes and wanting to believe/ be a part of the spectacle they ignore symptoms, until the condition gets worse. The fake healers chalk it up as a win, and the person is left in a worse situation than if they got real medical attention.
 
By your terms spiritual beliefs are all rubbish, and of course you have no faith there is a God. But much of the worlds poulation think otherwise.



That is a good link with useful advice.

Most of the worlds population believed the sub revolved around the earth at one point, did that make them any more right?
 

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