Mojo
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What if Jabba was to post a replica of the argument that everyone has just told him is wrong? Would it be a different argument?
[Merged] Immortality & Bayesian Statistics
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Akhenaten
Heretic Pharaoh
Loss Leader
I would save the receptionist., Moderator
Except for all of the chemicals and biological determinants that went into me.
Please, Jabba, please try to listen: People Do Not Come From Nothing.
Repeat that into a mirror three times each morning and evening every day.
John Jones
Penultimate Amazing
Hey Jabba,
Despite your constant denials, there is a chemical (or, biological) determinant exclusive to you. It's called your DNA.
Despite your constant denials, there is a chemical (or, biological) determinant exclusive to you. It's called your DNA.
Mojo
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Akhenaten
Heretic Pharaoh
"You won't get the gist if it ain't in a list."
Slowvehicle
Membership Drive , Co-Ordinator,, Russell's Antin
"(doo-ah, doo-ah, doo-ah, doo-ah, doo-ah, doo-ah, doo-ah, doo-ah, doo-ah)
You can redefine, if you go and underline,
(doo-ah, doo-ah, doo-ah, doo-ah, doo-ah, doo-ah, doo-ah, doo-ah, doo-ah)
It's no problem,
If it don't make no sense;
Just give it numbers,
That makes all the difference!
(doo-ah, doo-ah, doo-ah, doo-ah, doo-ah, doo-ah, doo-ah, doo-ah, doo-ah)"
Akhenaten
Heretic Pharaoh
Slowvehicle
Membership Drive , Co-Ordinator,, Russell's Antin
You just don't understand.
Did I say that before?
Do people here remember Catch 22?
"Now, where were we? [said the colonel] Read me back the last line."
" 'Read me back the last line,' " read back the corporal who could
take shorthand.
"Not my last line, stupid!" the colonel shouted. "Somebody
else's."
" 'Read me back the last line,' " read back the corporal.
"That's my last line again!" shrieked the colonel, turning purple
with anger.
"Oh, no, sir," corrected the corporal. "That's my last line. I
read it to you just a moment ago. Don't you remember, sir? It was only a
moment ago."
Did I say that before?
Do people here remember Catch 22?
"Now, where were we? [said the colonel] Read me back the last line."
" 'Read me back the last line,' " read back the corporal who could
take shorthand.
"Not my last line, stupid!" the colonel shouted. "Somebody
else's."
" 'Read me back the last line,' " read back the corporal.
"That's my last line again!" shrieked the colonel, turning purple
with anger.
"Oh, no, sir," corrected the corporal. "That's my last line. I
read it to you just a moment ago. Don't you remember, sir? It was only a
moment ago."
pakeha
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That may make sense in the breakfast nook, Jabba.
No, Jabba.
You seem to have forgotten how consciousness and therefor the sense of self is defined.
Why not also switch to the same nomenclature for your distinctions for finite: finite1 versus finite 2?
I agree with the other posters: if you repeatedly find that you must make up definitions and distinctions that have never been used before, you should re-exam your knowledge of your argument.
Humots
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AMEN!
Dear Jabba.
This looks very true to me. Please prove (a) or (b), or explain the existence of a (c) of which I cannot imagine currently. You seem to dance around the idea that (a) is part of the scientific model, which it is not. But either way, it should be easy for you to prove (a) or (b), scientific model or Jabba model, given you have thought and posted about this for so long. Please go ahead (don't tell me again that you will, since you have claimed this many times in your posts until now, but have yet to do so).
John Jones
Penultimate Amazing
OK, so let's go ahead and drop the words "immortality", "Bayesian", and "Statistics" as well. That leaves you with a null topic. How surprising.
These terms conjugated in any way you have demonstrated fail to "essentially" prove anything about immortality.
Remember -- DNA is chemical and biological. It exists and appears to be determinative and finite.
Can "we" agree that any contextual definition of "we" can be quickly established on this thread?
If not, why not?
It appears that "we" means every participant on this thread except Jabba and one possible exception whose name escapes me (toontown? I won't be troubled to look him up) , and who almost never contributes anymore.
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xtifr
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Separate-but-identical. Yes, I actually think we all understand this.
Finite.
Yes, there is. The fact that two yous would each self-identify as a different you doesn't change this. They're still each a you.
Now, it's true that they're each a separate you, but the thing which distinguishes the two is simply and solely their location in space-time. Which itself is finite and finitely divisible, so you still don't get to derive an infinity from this.
John Jones
Penultimate Amazing
Jabba,
Are you even seeing the responses of your interlocutors?
Yes or no?
Are you even seeing the responses of your interlocutors?
Yes or no?
PixyMisa
Persnickety Insect
I have highlighted the key word in your post. Unfortunately, this forum doesn't enable me to make it blink or slap people upside the head.
John Jones
Penultimate Amazing
I'm about to have a hot shave, do some laundry, and then have a steaming shower too, but I bet Jabba won't take another look at his position re: Immortality and Bayesian Statistics while I'm doing all this.
Will you?
Will you?
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