Split Thread Scorpion's Spiritualism

[thaiboxerken]

NO! it is the sum of my experience, and I have now decided to try and open my third eye, so as to see for myself if there is a spirit world.

There are ways to open the third eye. I prefer to pinch it. Some people use needles. Others like to use Oxyclean and let it heal on it's own.

 

[Donn]

An open, pollinated mind.

 

[Donn]

Scorpion, is this third eye spiritual?

 

[Scorpion]

Scorpion, is this third eye spiritual?

The third eye, the brow chakra, is just a psychic energy channel in the etheric body. It cannot be spiritual or unspiritual, just functional.

 

[Daylightstar]

... I have now decided to try and open my third eye, so as to see for myself if there is a spirit world.

And how will you be able to communicate effectively the result of that 'seeing with your 'third eye'?

Which brings me back to my earlier, as yet unanswered question:

Scorpion, on page 8 I asked you:

What do you hope to communicate with such anecdotes?

Would you be so kind as to explain this please?

 

[Daylightstar]

The third eye, the brow chakra, is just a psychic energy channel in the etheric body. It cannot be spiritual or unspiritual, just functional.

Nor, apparently, can it be shown to exist.

 

[Fast Eddie B]

The third eye, the brow chakra, is just a psychic energy channel in the etheric body. It cannot be spiritual or unspiritual, just functional.

That's what I meant by word salad.

third eye - not established
brow chakra - not established
psychic energy channel - not established
etheric body - not established

Bunch of terms jumbled together, with no real meaning discernible.



"It pays to keep an open mind, but not so open your brains fall out."

Carl Sagan


Back to lurk mode.

 

[dlorde]

As I have said, I was given the exact name of a dead baby brother I did not even know I had. So there was nothing vague about that.

You didn't explain how you can believe in psychics and mediums yet be uncertain that the spirit world exists.

 

[Scorpion]

And how will you be able to communicate effectively the result of that 'seeing with your 'third eye'?

I don't know, maybe I will be able to see the number telepathically being transmitted by Michael H on his telepathy test thread. But I doubt it.

Which brings me back to my earlier, as yet unanswered question:

Maybe the spirit world wants me to preach their teachings on the Internet, which is why they gave me five numbers on the lottery in 1998, to buy my first decent computer. Actually I have used it to try and undermine Islam by criticizing the quran since 9/11. I have done this on a number of other forums.
Mostly using the name Dajjal. I read the quran after 9/11 and decided it was a terrible indictment of God made up by Muhammad to control people. I want to free the minds of Muslims from fear of Allah by preaching spiritualism to them. It is only recently I have come here to debate with atheists.

 

[Scorpion]

You didn't explain how you can believe in psychics and mediums yet be uncertain that the spirit world exists.

I did say I am no longer absolutely sure of anything. But the more I think about it the more it comes down on the side that some mediums are genuine, and there probably is a spirit world.

 

[Scorpion]

That's what I meant by word salad.

third eye - not established
brow chakra - not established
psychic energy channel - not established
etheric body - not established

Bunch of terms jumbled together, with no real meaning discernible.

Its not word salad, its terms well known to theosophists and spiritualists.

I said on an early post on this thread, that I used to have a feeling like fire flowing through my chakras, which is the way I came to know about them. It turned out to be caused by my etheric body being made loose due to mental stress I had suffered. Spiritual healing (which I could often feel as energy flowing through me) eventually cured the problem.

 

[Scorpion]

Nor, apparently, can it be shown to exist.

If you go to the British museum and look at old statues of Buddha, you will see on some of them, there are stone flowers on the brow, and the palms of the hands of some of them. The chakras are ancient knowledge, and there are people today who preach their existence, and use them for healing. One of them is Barbara Anne Brennan. See the link. Her book "hands of light", can be found on the Internet as a pdf file.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Brennan



There are supposed to be 7 main chakras, and 21 minor chakras. There is one in the palm of each hand, and one in the soles of each foot, and one in each side of the temples. I used to channel healing energy through them to heal myself, and I could feel the energy building up.

 

[Daylightstar]

I don't know, maybe I will be able to see the number telepathically being transmitted by Michael H on his telepathy test thread. But I doubt it.
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So, no means of effectively communicating the result of that 'seeing with your 'third eye'. I'm not surprised.

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Maybe the spirit world wants me to preach their teachings on the Internet, which is why they gave me five numbers on the lottery in 1998, to buy my first decent computer. Actually I have used it to try and undermine Islam by criticizing the quran since 9/11. I have done this on a number of other forums.
Mostly using the name Dajjal. I read the quran after 9/11 and decided it was a terrible indictment of God made up by Muhammad to control people. I want to free the minds of Muslims from fear of Allah by preaching spiritualism to them. It is only recently I have come here to debate with atheists.

It's not the 'spirit world' wanting you to do any 'teaching' or preaching, it's you.
And you have to do this empty handed .....

So you want to remove people's (muslims) belief and insert another unsupported irrational belief you think is better, in it's place.
That's not very nice of you.

 

[Daylightstar]

I did say I am no longer absolutely sure of anything. But the more I think about it the more it comes down on the side that some mediums are genuine, and there probably is a spirit world.

You did say something like that, but you don't appear to act accordingly.

 

[I Ratant]

.. I have used it to try and undermine Islam by criticizing the quran since 9/11. I have done this on a number of other forums.
Mostly using the name Dajjal. I read the quran after 9/11 and decided it was a terrible indictment of God made up by Muhammad to control people. I want to free the minds of Muslims from fear of Allah by preaching spiritualism to them. ...

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I see your problem there. Muslims do not "fear" Allah. They embrace him with their hearts and souls and fingers on the triggers on the bombs.
I expect your efforts there are as ineffectual as they are here.
Whyncha concentrate on emphasizing the sin of murder/suicide on those fora?
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It is only recently I have come here to debate with atheists.

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Not doing that very well.

 

[Scorpion]

So you want to remove people's (muslims) belief and insert another unsupported irrational belief you think is better, in it's place.
That's not very nice of you.

The quran contains many terrible verses of what God will do to people, burning them in eternal fire and pouring boiling liquids on them that will burn their insides as well as their skins. I am trying to do Muslims a favour and liberate them from the fear of such a God by literary criticism of the quran.

 

[Scorpion]

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Not doing that very well.

I learn as I go along. I am learning all your views, much of which I knew nothing about until I came here. I got better at criticizing the quran over the years, I can get better at debating with atheists too.

 

[Donn]

If the third eye is psychic, and psychic powers are related to the spiritual plane, then is the third eye not also related to the spiritual?

 

[Daylightstar]

The quran contains many terrible verses of what God will do to people, burning them in eternal fire and pouring boiling liquids on them that will burn their insides as well as their skins. I am trying to do Muslims a favour and liberate them from the fear of such a God by literary criticism of the quran.

You mean, as you said, by preaching spiritualism to them. Or in other words, offering them lots of words empty handed.
You want muslims to abandon their belief for your irrational belief, just because you say it's better.

As I said, not very nice of you.

 

[Daylightstar]

I learn as I go along. I am learning all your views, much of which I knew nothing about until I came here. I got better at criticizing the quran over the years, I can get better at debating with atheists too.

Our view (or at least my view) is that you failed to substantiate any of your claims.