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YouTuber denounces cold reading!

MediumCJSibley said:
Brown does not prove trickery, but rather that people fit into certain categories. If Me and Brown give a reading to five people, picked by JRandi, and only JRandi knows about the five people, only one of them are married, only one has a car, one lives in the street , one has a cat name bob? Are you getting the picture? `WELL` Brown Wouldn't get any one of them right, BECAUSE they do not fit into categories?/ But i would get them.. Charlie..

Yeah, sure. *yawn*

Really uplifting voice he has too! ;)

This guy need's his adenoids fixed.
 
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Playing devil's advocate, I can immediately think of an obvious reason why Derren Brown would want to discredit mediums and psychics. Money. As an illusionist he can make more money out of discrediting them and supposedly proving them wrong than being just another so-called medium or psychic. William

Rumbled!! :D
 
Not much of a video. What was that mumbling in the background, or was that chanting?
 
I went and looked at the Derren Brown video he claims to be responding to, and I was a bit confused by something...


Although the bit with the clown at the beginning is a cold reading, and Brown says the whole demonstration is cold reading at 8:28, it seems to me the rest of the trick isn't anything even close to a cold reading. The vast majority of the video is the standard "give everyone in a room the same horoscope" trick that's been done by Randi and others.

I like Derren Brown alot, but why is he confusing the issue like this? I found it a jarring annoyance in an otherwise good demonstration.

Incidentally, there was an earlier thread on this same Derren Brown demonstration, here: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54312
 
MediumCJSibley has the bovine ability to chew the cud and fart methane at the same time.


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I went and looked at the Derren Brown video he claims to be responding to, and I was a bit confused by something...


Although the bit with the clown at the beginning is a cold reading, and Brown says the whole demonstration is cold reading at 8:28, it seems to me the rest of the trick isn't anything even close to a cold reading. The vast majority of the video is the standard "give everyone in a room the same horoscope" trick that's been done by Randi and others.

I like Derren Brown alot, but why is he confusing the issue like this? I found it a jarring annoyance in an otherwise good demonstration.

Incidentally, there was an earlier thread on this same Derren Brown demonstration, here: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54312

You're right, and it does allow scum like Sibley to weasel out of the accusation of using "cold reading". I suppose he went with it so prominently because the Forer/Barnum stuff is still a key underpinning to cold reading in general, even if the demonstration is not in itself "cold reading". The media team behind him probably thought it more impressive and easier to grasp for the audience. TV too often simplifies concepts for mass consumption to the point of meaninglessness.
 
Well if someone took the time to make a video of a still screen and mumble over it then I guess it must be true.
Lets see. Where did I put that $750.00? Time to give ol Silvia a ringing dinging.
What the hey! I got less than 20 minutes to kill.
 

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