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You going to vote for David Cameron?

Undesired Walrus

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So.. this David Cameron eh? I can never forget the Private Eye cover when he was elected as leader of the Tories.

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But, he is a charming man, and the Tories could do worse.

What's the opinion? I'm a socialist (Although Libertarian in my social life oddly) and Labour party member, so no Cameron for me!
 
No Cameron for me either.

An ex Carlton spin doctor? Just what we need. :rolleyes:

(The wisdom of Bill Hicks on marketing types)

Not that a certain grim Scot would get my vote either.
 
At the moment no, in a couple of years time who knows? (That's if he's still leader of the Conservatives of course.)
 
I'd sooner flop my wedding tackle into a lion's mouth and flick his love-spuds with a wet towel.

No, I'll be plumping for Mr Spoyle-Ballot next time around.
 
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There are two current issues which make it unlikely I could (at the next general election) support another Labour government, one is ID cards and the second is the further extension of powers of detention.
 
I'm debating who I'd least like to see in power. In my constituency, 2005 saw a Conservative win over Labour by 133 votes. So much as I'm tempted to vote for neither of them, it would seem wrong to waste a vote when I've actually got a chance of influencing the result.

Having said that, I can't see myself voting Conservative. So it's whether Labour manage to persuade me that they're worth voting for.
 
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Lucky you - in my constituency Conservatives had a majority of over 15,000; even if you combine all the other parties votes they still have a majority of almost 5,000!
 
i think Cameron himself is ok (as far as politicans can be...), but i haven't seen too much of the rest of his party that inspires much confidence - the sight of all the guffawing toffs behind him in the commons does make you wonder if you really want to entrust the country to them....:)

i say vote Vince Cable...[Clegg or Huhne by then will have had to step down in another lib dem scatolgical scandal]
 
It's interesting. If Cameron was an American politician he would be one of the most liberal Democratic candidates in many a decade.

Indeed, it seems likely any democrat would be Tory over here, which I'm sure they would welcome, as even Bill Richardson would put the charisma quota up by about 144%.

I feel sorry for Brown, as I do like the man. But I feel labour needs a radical shift. Bring back Blunkett and Charles Clarke to the front bench and stick Paul Boateng in as PM.
 
True - in fact reminding me of that makes me remember that voting Tory per se is not a bad thing. They're still well within my personal politics on most policies, as far as they go. But they're just so rubbish.
 
i think Cameron himself is ok (as far as politicans can be...), but i haven't seen too much of the rest of his party that inspires much confidence - the sight of all the guffawing toffs behind him in the commons does make you wonder if you really want to entrust the country to them....:)

i say vote Vince Cable...[Clegg or Huhne by then will have had to step down in another lib dem scatolgical scandal]


Having personally been severely affected by the Lib Dems at a local level I dislike them enormously (although in fairness nowadays I dislike and distrust pretty much all political types of all persuasions). I must concede that nationally out of the current shower of all party leaderships Vince Cable seems by far the best choice.

Why anyone would think either Clegg or Huhne will be a good party leader escapes me.
 
I still find it difficult how in the modern age, people still support the liberal democrats.

Maybe I am just damaged by the lib dem supporters I know, who in my personal opinion are worse than christian fundamentalists. They also got rid of one of the most intelligent man ever to grace the commons, old ming. Because he was old.

They also don't explain how you become fans of the male bottom when your hair starts falling out.
 
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I still find it difficult how in the modern age, people still support the liberal democrats.

Maybe I am just damaged by the lib dem supporters I know, who in my personal opinion are worse than christian fundamentalists. They also got rid of one of the most intelligent man ever to grace the commons, old ming. Because he was old.

They also don't explain how you become fans of the male bottom when your hair starts falling out.

Well it could be that the other choices are either the tories and their strange obsession with Europe and the whole headbanger side of the party or labour which has never heard of individual liberty or if they have think it's a little known insurance company of limited importance
 
They also don't explain how you become fans of the male bottom when your hair starts falling out.

Very odd indeed.

But unfortunately Brown is seemingly lacking any fresh ideas of his own and ready to randomly pillage from the other parties. As someone whose hair is falling out I can only hope that the grim Scot doesn't also steal this as his next policy proposal, claiming it will bring "stability" to the rent boy sector. :D
 
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Well it could be that the other choices are either the tories and their strange obsession with Europe and the whole headbanger side of the party or labour which has never heard of individual liberty or if they have think it's a little known insurance company of limited importance

It is quite curious how in British politics we are so cynical we always retreat to the 'not so bad as the others, but still bloody awful' party, which is usually the lib dems. It's not exactly the most inspiring placard is it?

As for individual liberty, what exactly do you find labour are not doing for it? While I am a supporter of a reasonably centralised state, I look around me and see labour wishing to learn from people who do the work they are funding/thinking of funding, rather than telling them how to do it. However, with the NHS, I do see a big problem with how they keep sticking their noses in.
 
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UW - ID cards and ridiculous plans for expansion of detention without charge are two I can quickly rattle of.
 
It is quite curious how in British politics we are so cynical we always retreat to the 'not so bad as the others, but still bloody awful' party, which is usually the lib dems. It's not exactly the most inspiring placard is it?

It's not our cynicism that leads to this state of affairs...

I voted Lib Dem in the last election, and hated myself for it. But the only other options were 1.) Tories calling themselves Tories, 2.) Tories calling themselves Labour, 3.) Galloway's leather-fist /head-chopper alliance, 4.) Some local loony campaigning as an independent on what appeared to be the "extreme Daily Mail readers" ticket, or 5.) Greens. It would have been the Greens and all, except that I live in a Labour/Lib Dem marginal and the Labour MP was a vile ultra-Blairite freak who really had to be stopped. Turns out everyone else had the same idea - Lib Dems won easily.

They're a joke of a party, though.

As for individual liberty, what exactly do you find labour are not doing for it? While I am a supporter of a reasonably centralised state, I look around me and see labour wishing to learn from people who do the work they are funding/thinking of funding, rather than telling them how to do it.

I thought you were a Private Eye reader? Surely you can't then say that with a straight face?

Or have I misinterpreted your point (I am hungover, after all)?
 
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It is quite curious how in British politics we are so cynical we always retreat to the 'not so bad as the others, but still bloody awful' party, which is usually the lib dems. It's not exactly the most inspiring placard is it?

If the election were limited to only eligible voting on the basis of supporting a party you truly believed in then the turnout would probably be reduced to a few hundred or so, mostly comprising of the friends and relatives of those seeking power.

Voting is simply a matter of who you dislike least from a very restricted list of electably worthwhile choices or how desperately you want to get rid of the last bunch of self-serving, spin-driven incompetents.

Cynical? Me?
 
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