Ye gods, they get worse.

I'm not sure what your tone of voice was in that last post, but I am about to burst into tears at the tragedy. I am deeply saddened.
 
I think this post says alot.

Here goes my faith in crot-h! Today she reported agg. in her LEFT eye.
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"Faith" being the operative word. You have to believe that homeopathic remedies work in order for them to have an effect.
 
Whites of her eyes have turned brownish/reddish/yellow after hamamelis-could the remedy do that?
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They say her "response to remedy" is unusual. Gads!! They are blaming the changes on the remedy? The water?
remedies can cause aggravations if they are the right ones.
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OMFG! If you get worse, it was the RIGHT remedy...

Why are they allowed to get away with this?
 
In response to advice to coordinate with a doctor:

When we need your advice in the middle of a
homeopathic case discussion, then rest assured,
we'll be sure to ask for it. Other than that please stop
posting here and keep out of our discussions that do
not involve you in any way. Stick to the Chit-Chat
forum where you belong.
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The woman may be losing her sight andbeing fed false hopes; I feel helpless.
 
Her allopath had already given up on her. So, all you folks are saying she should seek no other source of help? I don't think you have read the thread very carefully.
 
NoZed Avenger said:
In response to advice to coordinate with a doctor:



The woman may be losing her sight and being fed false hopes; I feel helpless.
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Edited to add:

I scrolled up even further and was surprised to see this early on:
This really should be handled by a qualified practitioner. . .
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. . . and then realised that they were talking about a qualified homeopath.

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Bowser said:
Her allopath had already given up on her. So, all you folks are saying she should seek no other source of help? I don't think you have read the thread very carefully.
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I read it. We have a third-hand report to begin with; the helper states that the woman states that her doctor states that he cannot do anything for her.

I suppose that, assuming that is all accurate related, a second opinion or a different specialist is out of the question? It is not stated, but I am also assuming that the woman is paying for these 20C and 30C 'remedies'.

I am all for her seeking another source of help; but to be blunt - that is not what she is doing.

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Bowser said:
Her allopath had already given up on her. So, all you folks are saying she should seek no other source of help? I don't think you have read the thread very carefully.
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Ah, the mask has come off.

Well, to answer your points.

1. The homeopath advising this person has only the patients account of their own disease. She have not taken the trouble to deal with her existing medical advisers in an appropriately professional manner and so has no idea whatsoever what her medical records have to say about her problems.

2. For goodness sake, Astra is playing with someone's vision over an internet message board. She's never. even seen the patient

3. "all you folks are saying she should seek no other source of help?" Not at all. She should be advised to seek a further competent medical opinion. it is very unlikely that spontaneous ocular haemorrhage can remain a genuinely undiagnosable condition, she may just need another and better doctor. meanwhile your homeopathic friend now acts as an obstacle to this.

I didn't think my opinion of homeopaths could fall any further, but the contributors to that thread have moved from the ethically dubious to the criminally negligent.
 
Yeh, and what a total waste of a post that was.

You must be the biggest ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ of the lot.

You don't need faith for homeopathic remedies to work either, they do.
 
Homeoskeptic said:
You don't need faith for homeopathic remedies to work either, they do.
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I can provide stong direct evidence that they do not. I can show that for them to work you would need to rewrite most of biology chemsity and physcis. I can show that your belife system is internaly contradictory. And againbst this you try to produce a few anicdotal cases that fade when it start to exaime them.

Homeopathy is a sick joke and you know it.
 
Homeoskeptic said:
Yeh, and what a total waste of a post that was.

You must be the biggest f**kwit of the lot.

You don't need faith for homeopathic remedies to work either, they do.
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Originally posted by Natural Health at the link provided by BSM
...If you don't like it you do not have to continue posting
here now do you?
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*ahem* Snap.

As to whether this is criminally negligent would require a check of state laws. Personally I see a "practicing medicine without a liscence" being likely, but that maybe me just being a jerk.

This. Is. Negligent. Criminally or no. High blood pressure can be a inherited condition, it can come from stress, and it can have nothing to do with diet.

The woman needs to see a liscenced medical physician, and if she has, then she may need a second opinion from another liscenced medical physician and not someone over the Internet.
 
Homeoskeptic said:
Yeh, and what a total waste of a post that was.

You must be the biggest f**kwit of the lot.

You don't need faith for homeopathic remedies to work either, they do.
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Really?

How come nobody has ever cited even a twinge of decent, confirmable evidence?

You made the claim, now would you get with the program and prove it?

I won't even comment on the OT here, it's beyond my ability to put down words on the page.
 
Part of me hopes this person does have an incurable, irreversible eye condition, because otherwise these deluded, untrained, unqualified idiots are heaping yet more misery on what I expect is already a distressing condition.

They like to think they are injecting 'positivity', but this is also known as 'false hope'. It is cruel and ultimately more damaging to the person involved than being honest from the start.

But what am I saying?
Honesty?
Ethics?
Evidence?
From homeopaths?

I hope this insane cult dies out sooner rather than later.
 
It wouldn't help. One poster already described having a best friend and "homeopathic mentor" die of untreated but treatable cancer, and while they had a twinge of doubt, it was quickly shouted down.

I really hope this person recovers in spite of the homeopaths incompetence. I'm sure we'll hear if she does: they'll hold her up as an example of successful treatement, but I wouldn't wish anybody permanent disability just to prove a point.

That's what the homeopaths are doing, after all.
 
LostAngeles said:
The woman needs to see a liscenced medical physician, and if she has, then she may need a second opinion from another liscenced medical physician and not someone over the Internet.
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Well, you know that and I know that. And probably this woman has friends who know that, too, and are going nuts trying to get her to see a real doctor.

But there are some people that simply refuse to be helped. It's sad, but what can you do? You're certainly not going to get her to see a real doctor by going onto the hpathy forum and telling the quacks there that they're hurting her.

One can only hope that after she goes blind, she sues her homeopath naked.
 
LostAngeles said:
As to whether this is criminally negligent would require a check of state laws. Personally I see a "practicing medicine without a liscence" being likely, but that maybe me just being a jerk.
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One of the things homeopaths are good at is staying legal. They have clients not paicents. they tend to have legal lopeholes that date back to the turn of the centry and to be honest the regulating authorities don't want to upset all the doctors doing a little homeopathy on the side.
 
I bet whatever the homeopaths say on the Internet, most of them have their 'clients' sign a waiver that says to consult an M.D...
 
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