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Women and Children first?

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When I was a kid, there was no question that the "women and children first in the lifeboats" attitude was correct. These days I suspect that a significant portion of the population would question the "women" part.
On the otherhand I can see that an arguement could also be made that an adult member of society is worth more than a child, we have after all more investment in the adult in the form of education etc (with exceptions of course). I think here for example, of the emphasis made on fighter pilots being worth millions because of training.
Children are more easily replaced and in fact, in many societies, they are/have been seen as replaceable. Certainly on a personal level no child is relaceable but if an intellectual choice had to be made....
So is the "women and Children first" philosophy finally outdated?
 
"You first, me second" is a good rule. Unless it's your mom we're talking about.
 
Women want it both ways. They dont want to be considered "unequal" but at the same time they want "unequal" provisions if it elevates their status.

For example I dont hear any women complaining about being left out of the military draft. But they sure as hell want equal pay in the military.
 
I think they're sent out first cause they are weaker and less likey to handle the situation as it worsens.

Lets say that in a sinking ship a big strong man can handle himself and tread water longer than some child. In the end they may all be saved, better to take care of the week first.
 
Tmy said:
I think they're sent out first cause they are weaker and less likey to handle the situation as it worsens.

I agree with you, I just want to point out that feminists will deny this fundamental truth to the very end.
 
Tmy said:
I think they're sent out first cause they are weaker and less likey to handle the situation as it worsens.

Probably more likely that women are more valuable for repopulation than men. One man can do the reproductive work of tens of men, if he has to, so he's less worth saving.
 
Matabiri said:


Probably more likely that women are more valuable for repopulation than men. One man can do the reproductive work of tens of men, if he has to, so he's less worth saving.

While true, I dont think thats a strong motivating force in this day and age. Perhaps in the Stone Age it might have been.

In times of disaster, men protect women because they are "weaker" not because they make a conscious decision regarding fertility dynamics.
 
yersinia29 said:
Women want it both ways. They dont want to be considered "unequal" but at the same time they want "unequal" provisions if it elevates their status.


The same is true with the leaders of the "black community". In fact, this is the reason I have concluded that such movements are nothing but supremacist movements in the guise of "equal right".
 
Tony said:



The same is true with the leaders of the "black community". In fact, this is the reason I have concluded that such movements are nothing but supremacist movements in the guise of "equal right".

This happens is all communites/groups whatever. Everyone wants the good but not the bad.
 

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