Witnesses Corroborating Rodriguez's Claims?

[Totovader]

In a recent YouTube discussion, the user "thewholesoul" claimed that the "morning supervisor" at the WTC, Antony Solto Lomacia, corroborates Rodriguez's claims:

hey toto, i dont see much of a point providing the corroborating testimony as it will not have any impact on your position. however if you are genuinely interested antony solto lomacia was the morning supervisor that day. youtube "New William Rodriguez support story".

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At this point, there's not much I haven't heard of- honestly. But this is not a name I recall ever coming across.

Does anyone recognize this name- maybe it's spelled differently? I couldn't find a single thing on this story.

 

[Gravy]

It's Anthony Saltalamacchia, and no, he doesn't corroborate Rodriguez's claims, except that there were explosions, which everyone knows. In fact, he contradicts Rodriguez about knowing that the "second" explosion came from the top of the building. From my Rodriguez paper:

Rodriguez believes he heard an explosion in the basement of the north tower an instant before American Airlines flight 11 slammed into its upper floors. However, since he was in the windowless B1 sublevel at the time, he had no way of knowing when the plane actually hit the building. His supervisor, who was with him in the maintenance office when the building was hit, says, "Being inside, we didn't know that there was anything wrong from the upper levels." Source

Other things Saltalamacchia contradicts Rodriguez about are that he singlehandedly rescued the people in the office, and that he carried Felipe David out on his back (he had help from others, including Kenneth Johannemann, which confirms those accounts in my paper). No question about Rodriguez's concern for others, his cool head, and his bravery, but Saltalamacchia's account does not support Rodriguez's assertion that there were bombs in the building or that there was an explosion before flight 11 hit.

One interesting detail Saltalamacchia added was that Rodriguez had called in and said he wouldn't be coming to work that day. Saltalamacchia convinced him to come in, since he had a difficult job to do. Imagine how different Rodriguez's life would be if he had stayed home.

 

[Totovader]

It's Anthony Saltalamacchia, and no, he doesn't corroborate Rodriguez's claims, except that there were explosions, which everyone knows. In fact, he contradicts Rodriguez about knowing that the "second" explosion came from the top of the building. From my Rodriguez paper:


Other things Saltalamacchia contradicts Rodriguez about are that he singlehandedly rescued the people in the office, and that he carried Felipe David out on his back (he had help from others, including Kenneth Johannemann, which confirms those accounts in my paper). No question about Rodriguez's concern for others, cool head, and bravery, but Saltalamacchia's account does not support Rodriguez's assertion that there were bombs in the building or that there was an explosion before flight 11 hit.

One interesting detail Saltalamacchia added was that Rodriguez had called in and said he wouldn't be coming to work that day. Saltalamacchia convinced him to come in, since he had a difficult job to do. Imagine how different Rodriguez's life would be if he had stayed home.

Thanks- proceeding to rip my hair out.

 

[Gravy]

Thanks- proceeding to rip my hair out.

Would you mind sending it to me?

 

[RedIbis]

In a recent YouTube discussion, the user "thewholesoul" claimed that the "morning supervisor" at the WTC, Antony Solto Lomacia, corroborates Rodriguez's claims:



link

At this point, there's not much I haven't heard of- honestly. But this is not a name I recall ever coming across.

Does anyone recognize this name- maybe it's spelled differently? I couldn't find a single thing on this story.

If you notice, that video comes right from Rodriguez's own site, and in fact it's Rodriguez who is interviewing Saltalamacchia. Actually holding a camera and a mic isn't exactly an interview since Rodriguez only asks him to tell his story and nothing else.

Also, what Saltalamacchia does corroborate is that an explosion was felt in what he thought was the mechanical room in one of the subbasements. After this he describes explosions on levels "above" him.

This is truly interesting because if Gravy's slow moving, magic fireball theory is true, why are the sub basement explosions felt first, then higher up explosions felt after, moving up the building?

 

[Totovader]

This is truly interesting because if Gravy's slow moving, magic fireball theory is true, why are the sub basement explosions felt first, then higher up explosions felt after, moving up the building?

How did you arrive at the conclusion that one type of "explosion" came before the other? Your stretch would seem to depend on whether or not these basement workers would be able to tell when the plane hit.

Please... explain this if you can.

 

[uk_dave]

How did you arrive at the conclusion that one type of "explosion" came before the other? Your stretch would seem to depend on whether or not these basement workers would be able to tell when the plane hit.

Please... explain this if you can.

Well of course they based it on the time of the impacts because, obviously the first thing anyone does when they hear a very loud Bang! is look at their watch (which they calibrated that very morning) and make a note of the time. Stands to reason, dunnit?

 

[RedIbis]

How did you arrive at the conclusion that one type of "explosion" came before the other?

I actually listened to the entire interview.

I am not saying anything about which explosion might or might not have been caused by the plane. I am talking about the order (lower to higher) of explosions that Saltalamacchia describes.

 

[e^n]

I actually listened to the entire interview.

I am not saying anything about which explosion might or might not have been caused by the plane. I am talking about the order (lower to higher) of explosions that Saltalamacchia describes.

In order to gauge which came first some knowledge of when the plane impact occurred is needed. This is not something that is easily determined from nearly 100 floors below.

 

[Swing Dangler]

If you notice, that video comes right from Rodriguez's own site, and in fact it's Rodriguez who is interviewing Saltalamacchia. Actually holding a camera and a mic isn't exactly an interview since Rodriguez only asks him to tell his story and nothing else.

Also, what Saltalamacchia does corroborate is that an explosion was felt in what he thought was the mechanical room in one of the subbasements. After this he describes explosions on levels "above" him.

This is truly interesting because if Gravy's slow moving, magic fireball theory is true, why are the sub basement explosions felt first, then higher up explosions felt after, moving up the building?

Hey Red, are you aware of any elevator shafts ending up in a sub-basement mechanical room? I'm not!

 

[phunk]

Well, since sound travels faster through steel than air, and the elevator shaft deflagration was subsonic, it would make sense that they would feel the impact through the structure of the building well before the fireball reached the basement. And when the whole room shakes at once, by default it feels like it's coming from below, because that's where you are in contact with the building (your feet on the floor, your ass on a chair, etc).

There was no explosion below willy, he simply misinterpreted (and later embellished) what he felt.

 

[Norseman]

Swing Dangler debunking Swing Dangler

Hey Red, are you aware of any elevator shafts ending up in a sub-basement mechanical room? I'm not!

Swing Dangler on his own blog Do The Orders Still Stand March 8th 2007:

Car 50 was the only elevator with access from the impacted floors of WTC1 to the sub levels B6 and below

Swing Dangler in a post written by him on this forum 2nd October 2007:

Car 50 was the only elevator with access from the impacted floors of WTC1 to the sub levels B6 and below

Or are you going to claim that you do not know that B-5 and B-6 inside WTC1 was a mechanical room, that's where Car 50 ends.? But you are among other things familiar with Mike Pecoraro's story, so you should know.

 

[RedIbis]

In order to gauge which came first some knowledge of when the plane impact occurred is needed. This is not something that is easily determined from nearly 100 floors below.

You seem to be missing my point. This has nothing to do with the plane's impact, simply the order of explosions described by Salty(I hope no one is offended by this shortening of the most difficult last name to spell this side of a certain Iraninan president).

He corroborates Rodriguez's order of explosions. First, those below him, then those above him.

 

[Totovader]

You seem to be missing my point. This has nothing to do with the plane's impact, simply the order of explosions described by Salty(I hope no one is offended by this shortening of the most difficult last name to spell this side of a certain Iraninan president).

He corroborates Rodriguez's order of explosions. First, those below him, then those above him.

It has nothing to do with the planes impact, therefore does not corroborate the claims of Rodriguez (at least any claims we care about).

And you can't just copy and paste the name? Or are you afraid your copy/paste method will misspell it, add punctuation, and then more words?

 

[RedIbis]

Hey Red, are you aware of any elevator shafts ending up in a sub-basement mechanical room? I'm not!

Now that would be troublesome for the "magic fireball" theorists, wouldn't it?

 

[Totovader]

Now that would be troublesome for the "magic fireball" theorists, wouldn't it?

Did you bother to take note of Norseman's findings?

Your ally hath deceived you.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

I sense a redefinition of "sub-basement mechanical room" coming...

 

[Totovader]

Just a slight bump for Red and thewholesoul who has agreed to join us in the discussion, here.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

Hey Red, are you aware of any elevator shafts ending up in a sub-basement mechanical room? I'm not!

Indeed, so the only access to the mechanical rooms was through the stairs, is that it?

That must have been a pain when they had to lug parts up and down.

 

[brasil]

I finally see a mention of Mike Pecoraro's story, but so far I haven't seen anyone directly address the issue of all the "rubble" and the "50 ton hydraulic press" he says was "gone" after hearing the "explosion." Here's the quote from the link someone provided above:

The two decided to ascend the stairs to the C level, to a small machine shop where Vito Deleo and David Williams were supposed to be working. When the two arrived at the C level, they found the machine shop gone.

"There was nothing there but rubble, "Mike said. "We're talking about a 50 ton hydraulic press ? gone!" The two began yelling for their co-workers, but there was no answer. They saw a perfect line of smoke streaming through the air. "You could stand here," he said, "and two inches over you couldn't breathe. We couldn't see through the smoke so we started screaming." But there was still no answer.

We also have Philip Morelli's story, and although I'm going to have to watch it again, I still find it a little hard to believe that events almost 100 floors above could be responsible for some of the things he observed:

http://www.ny1.com/pages/RRR/911special_survivors.html

Now back to Pecoraro for a second. At first I thought a "50 ton hydraulic press" weighed 50 tons (sounded kind of unlikely, but that's what I thought). Then I quickly realized that's a measure of it's pressing power. Regardless, I still find it hard to believe that events at the top of the building could be responsible for completely destroying this hydraulic press. Burnt people I can grasp, but destroyed machine equipment doesn't add up. Here is what a 30 ton hydraulic press looks like:

http://www.cincinnatiprecisionmachi.../used30tonhydraulicpress_SandSMachine (2).jpg