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!@#$% Windows 10!

John Jones

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That automatic update function you can't opt out of on Win 10 Home finally bit me. The latest update hosed my file and database 'server' on my home network. Now it locks up and makes a KLAXON howl whenever I turn it on. I've got back-ups of my files that are a couple of days old, but I've lost all my apps and will have to reinstall and reconfigure everything.

If I ever get it running again, I'm disabling that goddamn auto update service.
 
Is it MS Windows 10 Professional?

If not, you're out of luck (sorta): Only Professional can disable updates directly.

However, all versions can be tricked into thinking their network connection is 'metered', and auto-update will not use metered connections without specific approval. This requires registry hacking, and may not be stable.
 
GodMark2 said:
Is it MS Windows 10 Professional?

If not, you're out of luck (sorta): Only Professional can disable updates directly.

However, all versions can be tricked into thinking their network connection is 'metered', and auto-update will not use metered connections without specific approval. This requires registry hacking, and may not be stable.
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As I said, it's Win 10 Home. You have to disable the service to make it stop wrecking your machine.

*grouse, grumble, bitch, piss, and moan*
 
John Jones said:
That automatic update function you can't opt out of on Win 10 Home finally bit me. The latest update hosed my file and database 'server' on my home network. Now it locks up and makes a KLAXON howl whenever I turn it on. I've got back-ups of my files that are a couple of days old, but I've lost all my apps and will have to reinstall and reconfigure everything.

If I ever get it running again, I'm disabling that goddamn auto update service.
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I wasted hours last week after a nighttime update when it deleted/changed my logon pin so I couldn't get back on my computer. Their support was basically clueless even while they admitted that this was a known issue. Their online recovery was also useless when it asked a bunch of questions to identify me, one of which was the last four digits of my CC used for a past purchase. Of course that was changed two years ago when the card was changed due to the usual retail hacks, so they said sorry they couldn't verify me (this being done on my phone).

Eventually I realized that they had another option in logging in with my microsoft.com account, except I haven't used that for ages. Eventually I guessed the right password and was able to delete and reset my pin.

Pretty sorry stuff for an organization like this.
 
John Jones said:
That automatic update function you can't opt out of on Win 10 Home finally bit me. The latest update hosed my file and database 'server' on my home network. Now it locks up and makes a KLAXON howl whenever I turn it on. I've got back-ups of my files that are a couple of days old, but I've lost all my apps and will have to reinstall and reconfigure everything.

If I ever get it running again, I'm disabling that goddamn auto update service.
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You and I are in the exact same boat, and I'd like to disable the auto update feature, but it's a no-go.

I'd like to find the person that thought up this and beat their ass in front of their kids.
 
After a few episodes similar to this, I sold all my Microsoft stock.

I figured any company that would do such stupid things would eventually make a mistake so big that it would all come crashing down, quickly. The only real thing Microsoft has going for it is a monopoly, because no one wants to tackle the compatibility and retraining issues of switching to another operating system, or another office suite, or another development environment.

They're losing that last one rapidly. If they ever became the number 2 operating system, they would rapidly descend to the point of bankruptcy. Interestingly, Bill Gates understood the importance of keeping alive the development environment. During the '90s when MS was making truckloads of money on Windows and Office, he focused his personal attention on Visual Basic. It was a very wise choice, underappreciated by his successors.
 
John Jones said:
As I said, it's Win 10 Home. You have to disable the service to make it stop wrecking your machine.

*grouse, grumble, bitch, piss, and moan*
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Taking a helicopter view, I can understand the push to standardise on a single version, but the real world gets in the way.

I had a client (a digital print guy, serious volume). He had his RIP running on a WinXP box. Well, it fell over stone dead, nothing for it but a replacement machine. Problem: The RIP server software is only compatible up to Win7.

Got a new box but it was two solid days of effort to prevent the Win10 invasion.

It's the total **** you attitude from M$ that annoys. Peoples manufacturing machinery depends on the older stuff continuing to work.

Another client has a robotic CD/DVD manufacture and print device. That software will not run on anything beyond WinXPSP3. Easier to manage, since XP does not get sucked up into the automatic Win10 malarkey, but more difficult as XP is unsupported.
 
The Norseman said:
No, here we observe the price of "free" when pushed by a company who is only out for profits.
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Windows 10 is not free. Microsoft hasn't charged yet if you already ran certain older versions of Windows, but they do now. Windows 10 Home costs $120. The Pro Edition sets you back $200. (€135 Home, €279 Pro here in Germany.) [Prices from the US and German online Microsoft stores.]

As far as I know, the update and privacy behavior will stay the same even if you buy.
 
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BStrong said:
You and I are in the exact same boat, and I'd like to disable the auto update feature, but it's a no-go.

I'd like to find the person that thought up this and beat their ass in front of their kids.
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Ya know what? I wanna beat Bill and Melinda Gates asses too. And Steve Ballmer. And that Windows 8 architect clown. What were they thinking?

I hope they Die Screaming in the Pole Shift.
 
I had no problems with the ' free ' upgrade to 10 for almost a year..

Now, the automatic updates and nags are really pissin me off.

Never had any problems with 7, so I'm going back..

I couldn't care less if Microsoft will not support it; I've never used their support since day 1..
 
Looks like I am lucky my computer has refused to accept updates. No idea how to fix so that I too, can enjoy issues such as in the OP.
 
John Jones said:
What the hell are you talking about? Any idea, sweetheart?
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I run Windows. I don't own it. At one time I bought a license to use it, but now I don't pay.

I don't understand the program. I can't modify it. I depend on it; if it crashes, it precipitates a real crisis. I have a great deal of my life catalogued and journaled and stored in a machine running software that is outside my control, subject to the whims of another.

I run Windows. I don't own it. Windows owns me.
 
I'm done with Windows unless there is a serious replacement in the near future. I thought 8 was bad, 10 is horrendous. Was maxing out my disk to 100%, had to disable all the bloatware and finally quarantine Cortana to get things running again. My old pc with far less RAM and processing power, running Vista, is lighting fast in comparison. And since I'm stuck in an area with few choices for internet, internet is super slow thanks to Update and all the other nonsense.
 
John Jones said:
That automatic update function you can't opt out of on Win 10 Home finally bit me. The latest update hosed my file and database 'server' on my home network. Now it locks up and makes a KLAXON howl whenever I turn it on. I've got back-ups of my files that are a couple of days old, but I've lost all my apps and will have to reinstall and reconfigure everything.

If I ever get it running again, I'm disabling that goddamn auto update service.
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Good luck with that. As far as I'm aware Win 10 Home does not allow you to stop automatic updates. I believe you can defer them, but not stop them.

It's one of the reasons why many of us are sticking with Win 7 come what may*. It's come to the point where most people are actually better off with an "un-genuine" copy of Windows 7 than 10.

* Gaming is the only issue for me. If Vulcan can become as widely used as DirectX 12 then I'll switch to Linux in a heartbeat.
 
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