Win at any cost?

[crimresearch]

Don't like the results after THREE recounts? Just spend another $4 million of the taxpayers money for a revote...



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[Ed]

I thought he won the first two recounts and lost the last.

So, would you also say, regarding the democratic opponent "Don't like the results after TWO recounts? Just spend another $4 million of the taxpayers money for a revote..."

 

[TragicMonkey]

Can't they settle it like mature adults in a manner befitting the dignity of a civilized nation?

It goes "One potato, two potato..."

 

[Luke T.]

http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=1870727380

 

[NoZed Avenger]

So, can we all now stop mocking Florida about voting and replace it with "Washington" in all jokes?



I love the bit about votes being sent in for the recount out of Alaska. Classic.

 

[crimresearch]

Did the Dem ask for a re-VOTE after 2 recounts? Or did it take 3 recounts to get one the courts agreed on?

We've entered the era where no one will admit that they lost. Sooner or later someone will be suing over an election that occured many years earlier, and insist on being made 'Co-Governor' by the courts.

 

[HarryKeogh]

I thought he won the first two recounts and lost the last.

So, would you also say, regarding the democratic opponent "Don't like the results after TWO recounts? Just spend another $4 million of the taxpayers money for a revote..."

first two re-counts were machine recounts

last re-count was a "meticulous" hand re-count

frankly, I don't know if any method to count over 2 million votes will ever come up with the same result twice

but now the Republican candidate wants to change the law and have a revote. Seems like he's reaching, but I'd probably try the same thing, being a governor of a state must be a good gig!

 

[Tricky]

Yeah, we got one in Houston too. And since the Repubs pretty much own Texas, it is likely they will find a way to overturn the election. What with the Repubs in the US House of Representatives deciding to redefine "ethics" to "Whatever Tom DeLay does is okay", you have to wonder if they really do plan to cement their power by any means possible.

 

[varwoche]

Don't like the results after THREE recounts? Just spend another $4 million of the taxpayers money for a revote...



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Corrections: There were 2 recounts. The first one -- a computer recount -- was mandated by the state constitution due to close margin. The second recount -- by hand -- was paid for by the democratic party, not by taxpayers. Per state law, the hand recount is the final count.

When the dems were rasing money for the hand recount, they were intending to cherry pick favorable counties, which is within the law. Gregoire broke with the party, and insisted that all counties be recounted or else she would concede. Had she displayed this type of spunk beore the election, it wouldn't have been so close, imo.

add: It's all the fault of gay libertarians.

 

[varwoche]

first two re-counts were machine recounts

last re-count was a "meticulous" hand re-count

frankly, I don't know if any method to count over 2 million votes will ever come up with the same result twice

but now the Republican candidate wants to change the law and have a revote. Seems like he's reaching, but I'd probably try the same thing, being a governor of a state must be a good gig!

When the hand recount got underway, Rossi, the republican, steadily picked up votes over the first few days. Naturally, Rossi was very happy with the way the system was working, and dismissed out of hand a suggestion by GOP former state atty general for a re-vote. (And then he lost. Now he want a re-vote.)

Again, there were only 2 recounts, one by computer (mandated) and then the hand recount, provided for by state law and paid for by dems, which is final.

700+ uncounted votes were found during the hand recount. (Without them, Gregoire would have won by 8 votes, instead she won by 129.)

Unlike Florida 2000, there have been no credible claims of fraud (to my knowledge). It was democracy in action, and it seems the system worked.

 

[Luke T.]

700+ uncounted votes were found during the hand recount. (Without them, Gregoire would have won by 8 votes, instead she won by 129.)

My understanding is that it was 500+ votes that were found. They had been rejected as spoiled ballots during the election. Then during the hand recount, it was discovered they were not actually spoiled ballots and should have been counted. These ballots were found in a heavily Democratic county.

According to Washington state law, only those votes which were counted in the first count are supposed to be counted in any recounts, so technically, these "spoiled" ballots weren't supposed to be included in the recount, and that is the stand the Republicans took, of course. But since they weren't really spoiled ballots, it is my opinion they should be counted in the recount.

That is what I meant by the post I linked in my above post in which I said I was on the Democrats side in this case.

 

[varwoche]

My understanding is that it was 500+ votes that were found.

First they found the 500, then a couple hundred more.

According to Washington state law, only those votes which were counted in the first count are supposed to be counted in any recounts, so technically, these "spoiled" ballots weren't supposed to be included in the recount

I've seen that claim, however I'm curious the wording of the law because the state supreme court ruled they be counted, and they were.

 

[Luke T.]

In other election news, Ohio has released its official final count. They shaved 300 votes off Bush's win, so now he only won by 118,457 votes.

Someone should do a cost analysis of those 300 votes.

 

[Luke T.]

I've seen that claim, however I'm curious the wording of the law because the state supreme court ruled they be counted, and they were.

I'm glad they were. Another interesting note is that the elections commissioner is a Republican and also sided with the Democrats.

 

[gnome]

In other election news, Ohio has released its official final count. They shaved 300 votes off Bush's win, so now he only won by 118,457 votes.

Someone should do a cost analysis of those 300 votes.

How about the cost analysis of laying to rest some of the suspicions of widespread vote-tampering? I was waiting for this result to help make up my mind.

 

[Luke T.]

How about the cost analysis of laying to rest some of the suspicions of widespread vote-tampering? I was waiting for this result to help make up my mind.

Suspicions? I prefer wishful thinking.