William Rodriguez words about his Iran visit

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Mr. Rodriguez replied to our "Willie Rodriguez, Hero and Traitor" thread
concerning his Iran visit:

William Rodriguez said:
Dear Oliver, I see there is much concern about my peace trip to Iran. Let me rest you assure that is a "peace mission" and not a conspiracy mission. Here is what I posted before:

"I believe that if it was Jesse JAckson or Jimmy Carter doing a peace trip, everybody will be clapping. I will not, stop doing a peace outreach anywhere in the world - let it be Israel, Iran , North Korea or Iraq, even if this means breaking up with the whole 9/11 truth movement. I am very clear who I represent and what I am trying to avoid.


William Rodriguez
Last Survivor of the North Tower



President of the Hispanic Victims Group, Victims Support Group "
and for those that complains that I was just a janitor, it goes to show how high you can go and how many doors you can open. Randi was always attacked in the past because he was just a "magician" and did not have any credentials. Years later he is seem as the foremost expert on phenomena and backed up by top scientinsts with the "credentials". I am proud that I was a janitor, but with a college degree nonetheles. The pay was good at the WTC and by the way, there were many people with backgrounds (doctors, nurses, teachers, etc) from other countries working there as well as "janitors".


Thank you for your postings and take care.
William


Oliver said:
Dear Mr. Rodriguez,

personally i don´t care much about what job someone
has - as long he feels happy with his life and what
he´s doing. And for me you are the biggest hero i
ever heard of.

If you wish i can post your email at the JREF Board
to get rid of all the speculations within the Iran-
Thread.

Thank you very much for your reply. Maybe you like
to join the Forum someday if you have some time left.
And if we don´t read each other between the holidays,
i wish you a success in your mission, a merry christmas
and a happy new year.

Regards,
Oliver

William Rodriguez said:
Thank you for your words Oliver, and feel free to post it. I just got another invitation to speak and this one is for Israel!!! I see were all this is going and may cancel both trips due to the political ramification and the international position and placed upon. I do not want my peace mission to be misconstrued by either side. About joining JREF, I was there when it was created and like Randi said, for 30 years have been a supporter to the main objective, but I will not join an area were I am attacked by following my heart.


Thanks
WR


I´m not sure if he reads this thread but i wish him good
luck in everything he does in the future. :)

 
Mr. Rodriguez replied to our "Willie Rodriguez, Hero and Traitor" thread
concerning his Iran visit:







I´m not sure if he reads this thread but i wish him good
luck in everything he does in the future. :)


seconded.

I may not agree with the conclusions mr rodriguez draws from his 9/11 experience, but I cannot fault his bravery and humanity.

And, as he states, now that his trip is becoming a political football I suspect that, while his intentions were noble, the reality of the world has now intruded harshly upon those intentions.

Incidentally, while I have no problem whatsoever with someone with a college degree working as a janitor in the WTC, one can't help but wonder what the woowoos would have made of mr rodriguez and his 'over qualification' for his chosen job had he been a vocal supporter of the official account of events....hmmmmm?
 
Well, our "truthseeking" friends at the Loose Change Board
deleted the thread about William. Instead they still keep their
"Jrefers Disrespect 9/11 Hero Willie Rodriguez"-Thread to make
us look bad.

Great "Truth"-Job, IVXX.

From that thread:

some paranoid dood@LC said:
Don't you guys see what they are doing? God damn. Open your eyes.

Anyone ever heard of people protesting in seattle during the WTO meeting? I believe they had some anarchists protesting peacefully. Well....the corporations decide to pay some people to go into this protest looking like an anarchist and start raising hell by breaking things. Well, the police see this and start abusing everyone and taking people to jail. So what was a legitimately peaceful protests turns bad on the anarchist because of a planted spy agent (whatever you call it).

Ok, now do you see what William Rodriguez might be doing to the truth movement? Umm.....yeah...really scarey. I tried to tell highwaymang about it about a few weeks ago.

Is there anyone who isn't a dis-info agent in the Troof movement? Geez, some of these guys need to get out more...

A few of them(including :socks: boy) skipped over the nice things I said about Willie and highlighted just this bit(they even left the comma in there!):

me said:
I may disagree with his view on what happened, .....
...and proceeded to accuse me of denying of Willies account. Like most morons in the Truthiness movement, their comprehension skills are nil. It should be obvious that I wouldnt think the man is mistaken or lying about what he witnessed - its the conclusions he draws that I dont agree with. Obviously, everything he experienced did happen, but his testimony in no way even remotely hints at a CD. In fact, to most knowledgable folks - it does the opposite.

ETA: Thanks for posting this Oliver. I do wish that he'd join the forum. If anyone were to attack him, they would quickly evoke the wrath of big owl and many others...
 
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Is he going to talk about structural engeneering at that conference?

BTW, a trip to Iran to talk about how 9/11 was an American inside job is not a peace mission.

What exactly is he going to talk about?
 
Thanks for posting this Oliver. I do wish that he'd join the forum. If anyone were to attack him, they would quickly evoke the wrath of big owl and many others...

Too bad that he thinks he will be attacked for trying to
do the right things. It would be very interesting to know
a littlebit about his world view after all the expieriences
he made in his life.
 
Well, our "truthseeking" friends at the Loose Change Board
deleted the thread about William. Instead they still keep their
"Jrefers Disrespect 9/11 Hero Willie Rodriguez"-Thread to make
us look bad.

Great "Truth"-Job, IVXX.

That pisses me off.

M. Rodriguez was a hero on 9/11, that's an absolute fact. But what he did 5 years ago is completely unrelated to what he is doing today.

He is promoting completely false theories that could cause harm to the US and the West.

It's like saying: Bush was a great father to his kids, therefore going to Iraq must be the right thing to do.
 
That pisses me off.

M. Rodriguez was a hero on 9/11, that's an absolute fact. But what he did 5 years ago is completely unrelated to what he is doing today.

He is promoting completely false theories that could cause harm to the US and the West.

It's like saying: Bush was a great father to his kids, therefore going to Iraq must be the right thing to do.

I also wouldn´t support the idea to spread the CT´s
about "9/11 was an inside job" over there - i still have
the muslim reaction after the Popes speech in summer
in my mind. (after quotemining 14th-century Byzantine
emperor Manuel II Paleologus :boggled:)

However - William already explained this point:
Let me rest you assure that is a "peace mission" and not a conspiracy mission.
 
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What does he mean by "peace mission"?

ETA: What is he going to talk about at his conference?
 
What does he mean by "peace mission"?

ETA: What is he going to talk about at his conference?

I don´t know - but i trust him. Shall i PM his email adress
so you could ask him for yourself?
 
Do you have permission to give his email address out?

It´s available on the net. But i don´t want to post it
in here because i think he´s pretty busy and i also
don´t know if he´s back from his england-tour...

Check your PM. :)
 
I'm with apathoid.

It's amazing how incapable CTers are of making precise distinctions.

I don't think I've seen anyone at JREF actually claim his account of what he did, saw, experienced, and witnessed on 9/11 is a lie or false. Indeed, his account has been used as evidence by people here numerous times. It is his INTERPRETATION that we take issue with, that is all.

CTers do this alot. The exact same thing has happened with Mineta's testimony. None of us deny his experience, we deny his interpretation.

CTers don't seem to be capable of distinguishing between "I saw X, Y, and Z" and "I think X, Y, and Z mean...A, B and C."

They seem to think they are one in the same. They are not. And it is possible to accept X, Y, and Z without accepting A, B and C.

-Gumboot
 
To be fair: They deleted both threads about Mr. Rodriguez
after someone added a link to this thread at JREF.


:dl:

They're like a bunch of children eavesdropping on the "big kids" and adjusting their actions accordingly.

-Gumboot
 
:dl:

They're like a bunch of children eavesdropping on the "big kids" and adjusting their actions accordingly.

-Gumboot

I really thought that IVXX is an openminded person but
he proves himself wrong very often that he can´t be
honest concerning "truth".
 
Oliver,

If you are in contact with William Rodriquez again, please ask him why he signs his email and describes himself as the "Last Survivor of the North Tower".

Thanks,
Lash
 

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