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Will Trump be re-elected?

Will trump be re-elected?

  • Yes

    Votes: 28 14.5%

  • No

    Votes: 80 41.5%

  • Don't know, but I hope not

    Votes: 82 42.5%

  • Don't know, but I hope he does

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • Total voters
    193

MrFliop

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MrFliop
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Well, we are less than a month into Donald Trump's presidency and so far he has a record low approval rating and has created so much controversy. Things don't look too good for him now.
 
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MrFliop said:
Well, we are less than a month into Donald Trump's presidency and so far he has a record low approval rating and has created so much controversy. Things don't look too good for him now.
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A war can turn that around, especially if the Muslim horde attacks first. You all better rally around the flag.
 
I voted No but if the dems run Clinton again, or another candidate as horrible, then Trump may win reelection...
 
There was no good reason to elect him in the first place.
There will be no reason to do so again.

So I guess he has 2020 in the bag.
 
Possibly. I'll do what I can to wreck his presidency, but I could see him going for 8 years...
 
Sitting presidents in elections since 1952 are 7-3. Winners: Eisenhower, Johnson (not a reelection, but he was the sitting president), Nixon, Reagan, Clinton, Bush (Jr) and Obama. Losers: Ford (not a reelection but he was the sitting president), Carter and Bush (Sr). If you count reelections only, the sitting presidents are 6-2.
 
NoahFence said:
Well, I dunno. Did you predict he'd be an awful president and an even worse human being?

Those are still in play, obviously.
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He's definitely off to the worst start. Although, if he lives to the end of the week, he'll beat Wm. Harrison.
 
He has about two years to do his evil deeds. So has Paul Ryan. We must not completely hold him back from messing up. That way the second 2 years nothing much will happen at all. Maybe he will have a health crisis as he cannot do anything much more then.

After two years the house will go some 30 seats in the Democrat direction so we don't need to worry about Ryan.

Pence will run as the 2020 candidate. Trump will collapse and make some excuses after he recovers enough.
 
MrFliop said:
Well, we are less than a month into Donald Trump's presidency and so far he has a record low approval rating and has created so much controversy. Things don't look too good for him now.
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I'm hoping to see him burn in hell ASAP, So, no, I do not expect it to be re-elected. Even it's most ardent **** licking ******* sucking voters surely cannot be stupid enough after (hopefully much less) 4 years of his stupidity, evil, maliciousness,etc./ad inf.........to still support him!!!!!
 
MrFliop said:
Well, we are less than a month into Donald Trump's presidency and so far he has a record low approval rating and has created so much controversy. Things don't look too good for him now.
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Way too soon to tell.

I think David Frum laid out a persuasive account of how he could get re-elected after a popular first term. And by the way, when it comes to popular you only need to be popular enough. You can be hated and despised by a large section of the population and still get re-elected. In fact the hatred he gets from some segments of the population may make him stronger. The problem I see in a lot of protest against Trump is that it isn't principled opposition to his views but the kind of identity politics "virtue signaling" and preaching to the choir that probably made people vote for Trump in the first place. Will any rhetoric from self-proclaimed "nasty women" or BLM or John Oliver get people to shift their vote from Trump? I don't think so. Will mooning Trump Tower or violently protesting Milo Yannopolous or punching neo-nazis on the street take votes from Trump? I don't think so.

It comes down to whether the Democrats (other parties are simply irrelevant or in the way) can run somebody with a positive attractive message. At the moment, only Bernie Sanders seems interested in doing that - because he was campaigning on principle in the general election. Others seem to have one strategy which is to hope that Trump makes such a mess of things that he could not possibly win enough votes in the next election. I believe this is the sole existing strategy.
 
Trump wins re-election in 2020. In part due to the the reasons Frum outlined. Also look for Stein to run again in 2020 and will receive a ton of "support" (and ready-made conspiracy theories to throw at who ever the Dem nominee is) from Trump, Putin, several far-right populist leaders in Europe, and their supporters. She is too good a useful idiot to not play a role in re-electing Trump.
 
I've also been quite poor at Trump-related predictions, so I'm going with a very enthusiastic "Yes!"
 
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