WHY WE MUST NOT RE-ELECT PRESIDENT BUSH

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George Soros published this 2 page ad in the Tampa Tribune and other papers in hotly contested states. I apologise for the lenght but I could not find a link. If someone could post it and we'll have the moderators remove the text.

I have removed text and inserted links so that this post is not in breach of your Membership Agreement. Although I found the links with just two searches using Google it is your responsibility to ensure your posts are in line with the Membership Agreement when you post them. Therefore this is an official warning for violation of Rule 4, if you make future posts like this further sanctions may be applied.
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From http://www.georgesoros.com/index.cfm?Fuseaction=SpeechHTML

WHY WE MUST NOT RE-ELECT PRESIDENT BUSH
A personal message from George Soros


This is the most important election of my lifetime. I have never been heavily involved in partisan politics but these are not normal times. President Bush is endangering our safety, hurting our vital interests and undermining American values. That is why I am sending you this message. I have been demonized by the Bush campaign but I hope you will give me a hearing. .

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If you find my arguments worth considering, please share this message with your friends.

I would welcome your comments at georgesoros.com . I am eager to engage in a critical discussion because the stakes are so high.
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From http://www.soros.org/about/bios/a_soros

George Soros was born in Budapest, Hungary on August 12, 1930. He survived the Nazi occupation of Budapest and left communist Hungary in 1947 for England, where he graduated from the London School of Economics. While a student at LSE, Mr. Soros became familiar with the work of the philosopher Karl Popper, who had a profound influence on his thinking and later on his professional and philanthropic activities.

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Wow that's a mighty pointy pen you have there Mr.Soros.
If you have argument with his position debate the message not denegrate the messenger.
 
One good reason for re-electing Bush is that in view of his clique's military incompetence, political incompetence and economic incompetence, another 4 years will utterly disredit neo-conservatism in the U.S. and around the world. So U.S. liberals might be able to look forward to a long era of political supremacy, as in the period after Roosevelt's new deal, which lasted until the early 1970's


This argument is probably more appealing if you live here in the EU of course.


? bientot.


edited to add. It's a neocon gubbmint plot. The board's software refuses to accept french accents, hence the ?
 
patnray said:
You forget the very short memory of the American electorate...
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Seriously, or semi seriously, if Kerry squeaks in he will have the huge task of clearing up Bush's mess while the right sits back and blames his failures and difficulties on his lack of commitment to neo con principles. As you know better than I his freedom of action will be severely limited by republican dominance in congress.

Sometimes winning an election can be worse than losing.

I know it's not going to seem that way to you though.
 
I read the link provided. I found nothing in it that would convince me to switch my vote to Kerry. Your opinon may differ.
 
Nikk said:
One good reason for re-electing Bush is that in view of his clique's military incompetence, political incompetence and economic incompetence, another 4 years will utterly disredit neo-conservatism in the U.S. and around the world. So U.S. liberals might be able to look forward to a long era of political supremacy, as in the period after Roosevelt's new deal, which lasted until the early 1970's


This argument is probably more appealing if you live here in the EU of course.
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I´d say that four more year of Bush and his ilk are far too high a price to pay for that.
 
Rob Lister said:
I read the link provided. I found nothing in it that would convince me to switch my vote to Kerry. Your opinon may differ.
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and "George Soros published....." was all I needed to read. :rolleyes:


However, the all-caps was a nice touch to your post--it made me want to read it more than all the others. It had a touch of urgency.
 
I read George Soro's speech and I agree with it.

I'm not agreeing to the speech because I hate the GOP. If Al Gore was properly installed as president and did the same things as Bush did, he would be just as demonized by the both the right-wing (by default) and the left.

Bush made a number of bad errors in judgement. He needs to be replaced.

Charlie (anyone but Bush) Monoxide
 
Chaos said:
I´d say that four more year of Bush and his ilk are far too high a price to pay for that.
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Dunno. If Kerry wins, the neocon political ideology is likely to remain dominant in the U.S. All the liberals can do is work within this political environment. As I think the ideology is not only based on false premises but is also rapacious and destructive both nationally and internationally I would like to see it utterly discredited.

Bush has made a good start on doing this and a further term might finish the job.

In case you haven't worked it out I'm a militant liberal. I think we must turn the heartland of neo-conservatism into a lake of quiche :D.
 
circuit slave said:
and "George Soros published....." was all I needed to read. :rolleyes:
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I guess You didn't even' read the abridged version of my post.

"If you have argument with his position debate the message not denegrate the messenger."
 
TillEulenspiegel said:
I guess You didn't even' read the abridged version of my post.

"If you have argument with his position debate the message not denegrate the messenger."
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Why so we could both go posting on an on ad nauseum? I'm not trying to denegrate the message, just don't yell it next time.
 
Nikk said:
Dunno. If Kerry wins, the neocon political ideology is likely to remain dominant in the U.S. All the liberals can do is work within this political environment.

Sounds like gridlock. And that would be much better than the current state of affairs.

As I think the ideology is not only based on false premises but is also rapacious and destructive both nationally and internationally I would like to see it utterly discredited.

Bush has made a good start on doing this and a further term might finish the job.

And you accept the massive damage - political, diplomatic, economic, and in death and suffering - that this will cause? Most of the latter will most likely be abroad, with people who don´t have anything to do with the neo-cons?

In case you haven't worked it out I'm a militant liberal. I think we must turn the heartland of neo-conservatism into a lake of quiche :D.
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Sounds good. Can you keep it among yourselves instead of letting these guys rampage all over the world?
 
circuit slave said:
Why so we could both go posting on an on ad nauseum? I'm not trying to denigrate the message, just don't yell it next time.
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I beg Your pardon, where did I yell? If you mean the title I cut-n-
pasted it verbatim from the original.

As far as debate Ad-nauseum, I posted a published an article . As I stated if you have issues with which you have disagreement in the article address them.
 
Yeah, I hate Bush too becuase like the problems in Iraq means its a disaster. And like, we shouldnt have gone anyway and stuff.

And his like, economic policy, is like a disaster and ◊◊◊◊. Doesn't he know the economy is the president's real job! He should like create some more jobs and stuff.

Also, he's like a moron. You should see the clips they play on the Jon Stewart show about him. They're pretty funny.
 
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