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Why Trump/Hitler Comparisons are Unfair

The Atheist

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Aside from the matter of a few million dead Poles and Jews, the whole comparison is laughable.

Trump - aka Colonel Bone Spurs - is a coward.

Hitler was demonstrably not. He fought with distinction in WWI, and says himself that he thrived on the war.

Trump inherited a booming economy.

Hitler inherited an economy that was an utter mess. He raised the living standard of all Germans, while Trump is hurting those that need the most help.

Hitler united Germany.

Trump is dividing America - maybe permanently.

Hitler started from humble beginnings and worked his way up to be the baddest dictator ever.

Trump was born with two silver spoons in his mouth and still would have gone bankrupt had daddy not intervened, and only ended up POTUS thanks to Robert Mercer deciding to make him boss.

The only thing the two have in common is racism, and there are plenty of racists about.
 
When a piece opens up with "Aside from the matter of a few million dead Poles and Jews" you know you are in for some "good" "satire."
 
The Atheist said:
Trump - aka Colonel Bone Spurs - is a coward.
Hitler was demonstrably not. He fought with distinction in WWI, and says himself that he thrived on the war.
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How can you say Trump is a coward? He claimed he would rush into a building even if there was an active shooter inside. If that's not bravery, what is?

Besides, he claimed he had sex with women in the 70s/80s. Said it was his own "personal Vietnam". That shows massive bravery right there.
The only thing the two have in common is racism, and there are plenty of racists about.
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There are a bunch of other things they have in common. For example, both made deals with Russia, at least during part of their tenures. And both of them gained power despite not having a majority of the popular vote.
 
The Atheist said:
... The only thing the two have in common is racism, and there are plenty of racists about.
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No there's more than that they have in common:

* populists / nationalists
* demonizing minorities
* disregard for rule of law
* disregard for free press
* wannabe dictators
 
I don't think anyone is seriously saying that Trump is literally Hitler. I could make the comparison to how Trump's movement spread in the poorer white classes and how it spread in poor Weimar Germany. I could compare Hitler's mass rallys with Trump's, their vilifying of the press and of "others". Even their hard on for flaunting their armies is comparable.

There are many comparisons between Trumpism and Nazism. There are few comparisons between Trump and Hitler.
 
Segnosaur said:
How can you say Trump is a coward? He claimed he would rush into a building even if there was an active shooter inside. If that's not bravery, what is?

Besides, he claimed he had sex with women in the 70s/80s. Said it was his own "personal Vietnam". That shows massive bravery right there.
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Wow.

In response to a post that says this:
The Atheist said:
Hitler inherited an economy that was an utter mess. He raised the living standard of all Germans
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You find the time to criticize Trump?
 
theprestige said:
Wow.

In response to a post that says this:

You find the time to criticize Trump?
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Yeah, they make this here Hitler fella look pretty good, except for the unimaginable atrocities of the Holocaust and starting World war II which led to 80 million deaths.

The next time I want to write a piece about something I don't like, I am absolutely gonna get off on the right foot by deliberately diminishing the Holocaust.
 
The Big Dog said:
Yeah, they make this here Hitler fella look pretty good, except for the unimaginable atrocities of the Holocaust and starting World war II which led to 80 million deaths.
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I think the point you're missing is that Hitler didn't start off making the unimaginable atrocities of the Holocaust.

He started off blaming all of Germany's problems on a largely powerless minority, stoking hatred against that minority, eventually making that minority illegal, and separating them from their children. Then, Hitler moved on to yuge levels of evil.
 
theprestige said:
How can you say Trump is a coward? He claimed he would rush into a building even if there was an active shooter inside. If that's not bravery, what is?

Besides, he claimed he had sex with women in the 70s/80s. Said it was his own "personal Vietnam". That shows massive bravery right there.
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Wow.

In response to a post that says this:

Hitler inherited an economy that was an utter mess. He raised the living standard of all Germans

You find the time to criticize Trump?
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Well, first of all, you do realize that there is at least a little sarcasm in my post. However, given the fact that bravery is often held up as something important to many people (especially the right wing) then highlighting Trump's cowardice is certainly fair game.

As for Hitler inheriting an economy that was in a mess... I seem to notice that you ignored the part about Trump inheriting a booming economy.

Do you have any evidence that the opening post was wrong? Do you deny that the economy Trump inherited from Obama was more successful than that inherited by Hitler?

I do recognize that this particular thread is rather over-the-top. But, in its excessive silliness it does serve as a platform for highlighting some of Trump's failures as a human being.
 
Upchurch said:
I think the point you're missing is that Hitler didn't start off making the unimaginable atrocities of the Holocaust.

He started off blaming all of Germany's problems on a largely powerless minority, stoking hatred against that minority, eventually making that minority illegal, and separating them from their children. Then, Hitler moved on to yuge levels of evil.
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Learning so much about Hitler! Mostly how he is the new darling of the anti-Trumpers.

Good catch on that aryan part, tho, Hitler was certainly all in for them and they were all doing pretty good, until the entire dying in humanity's largest war.
 
uke2se said:
I don't think anyone is seriously saying that Trump is literally Hitler.
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If it hasn't actually been said in those words, the rhetoric is skating very close to it:

https://fpif.org/its-time-to-take-the-nazi-trump-comparisons-seriously/


dudalb said:
I think Mussolini is a much better comparasion.
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I agree, and have said so for the last 18 months, but I think that concept is a bit esoteric for most people.

The Big Dog said:
Yeah, they make this here Hitler fella look pretty good, except for the unimaginable atrocities of the Holocaust and starting World war II which led to 80 million deaths.
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If I recall my history correctly, it was actually UK that started WWII. Up until then, it was just a little liebensraum action, with a few dead Poles dressed as Germans. I agree the Holocaust wasn't a good look, but President Trump has said there are some very fine people among the actual Nazis, so it clearly doesn't bother him too much.

He also did pay for ads in NYT to call for the execution of five innocent black guys a couple of years back, so I can't rule out the possibility that he would commit his own Holocaust if he thought he'd get away with it.
 
Segnosaur said:
I do recognize that this particular thread is rather over-the-top. But, in its excessive silliness it does serve as a platform for highlighting some of Trump's failures as a human being.
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It is also supposed to highlight the stupidity of the comparison, no matter which way you view it.

Interestingly, I've found a New Yoik Joo who is saying much the same thing as me, although probably much better: https://www.jpost.com/US-Elections/...re-Trump-to-Hitler-it-belittles-Hitler-467701
 
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