Why isn't the Democratic Party Less Popular?
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Skeptical Greg
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A lot of people like the idea of being taken care of... ( or that there are many who need to be .. )
This is in contrast to Republicans who are under the illusion that they are not... ( being taken care of... )
This is in contrast to Republicans who are under the illusion that they are not... ( being taken care of... )
aerosolben
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The idea said:
So Republicans won't get elected.
DavidJames
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"There we go. Now it makes more sense"
Yup, I think "The idea" simply made a "typo"
Yup, I think "The idea" simply made a "typo"
The idea said:
As Ayn Rand contended, socialist parties are headed by elitists. Ted Kennedy will always be a millionaire with a fleet of yachts, the Clintons will always make money from their Ivy League law degrees. Their goal is to trap the losers of the world (ie, the pouty michael moore democrats, unions (especially teachers unions), and unmotivated or angry minority groups) within the welfare state, thus retaining their power and wealth.
They try to get the "lower and middle class" (note their constant use of class warfare) addicted to government entitlement programs, be it welfare or bloated contracts (think- Big Dig/Mass Turnpike authority (private agency? yeah right)).
Does anything ever change for the loser groups? Never. They are forced to remain right where they are while the Senators who keep them in the ghetto sail laps around Martha's Vineyard.
Republicans promise nothing to the loser groups, not even recognition. As an individual, you have equal protection of law. Don't tell me you're a fag and need special fag laws to be protected- nobody has a right to harass you for any reason, queer or straight.
We are not going to trap losers by giving hand-outs that don't motivate, or rewarding bad behavior. It's better to use postitve and negative reinforcement methods to better good people's lives and punish the leeches and criminals who prey on ordinary decent citizens.
The point is- they do NOT lack common sense. They know exactly what they are doing to this country, and that's not even counting the 1960s ideals that help bind the party together at various levels.
fishbob
Seasonally Disaffected
Not Republicans.
I don't think that the Reps had a particularly bad reputation until Nixon and CREEP (committee to re-elect the president). Buried deep in the subconscious of many people is the image of the Nixon crony Reps as sleazebags. And of course Bush Sr. was involved with the Nixon Administration, and with the Reagan Administration, and the Bush administration, and the other Bush administration.
Some people like the Dems simply because they are the viable alternative to the Reps. And they have better haircuts (tribute to another fine Corpx turn of phrase).
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Who heads nonsocialist parties? If an "elitist" is merely someone with access to a lot of money, then it appears that both of our major political parties are in the hands of elitists. Are both parties socialist?American said:
Crossbow
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The idea said:
The Democrats sure do have some problems all right, but the USA has always been pretty much a two-party nation and until there is some other party that can attract a good base of support like the Democrats do (about 35% of the electorate), then I expect that the Democratic party will continue well into the future.
Michael Redman
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Resorting to the explanation that the other half believes what it does because it's ignorant, stupid, evil, hateful, etc. is always easy (just ask Ann Coulter), but in the end it always an intellectually bankrupt approach.
The leadership of much of the western democracies is more in line with the Dems thinking that with the Repubs. Is it likely that most of the free people of the west are clueless? And only American conservatives know what's going on? Or is it more likely that the Dems ideas do not lack common sense, but are simply based on different assumptions and priorities?
It may be satisfying to think that you belong to an intellectually elite group that has sole possession true understanding, but I think taking that position shows a lack of common sense.
The leadership of much of the western democracies is more in line with the Dems thinking that with the Repubs. Is it likely that most of the free people of the west are clueless? And only American conservatives know what's going on? Or is it more likely that the Dems ideas do not lack common sense, but are simply based on different assumptions and priorities?
It may be satisfying to think that you belong to an intellectually elite group that has sole possession true understanding, but I think taking that position shows a lack of common sense.
The American population is also generally in line with Dems on most issues. The problem is that Dems generally tell a little more truth than Repugs(not the whole truth, they ARE politicians, after all) For instance, you cannot spend hundreds of billions of dollars more than last year and cut taxes by hundreds of billions at the same time without cutting vital services and running up a huge unpayable debt. This is common sense, but it sucks to have to tell people this...the Republicans simply don't advertise the practical results of policies like this, which makes it easier to get elected.Michael Redman said:
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Excellent question. The repubs, too, are headed by an elite class. The difference is providing the opportunity for the grass roots of the party (or anyone in the country) to climb from where they came, or for that matter allowing the elitists' kids to end up losers and slackers, unlike their parents, because they didn't try hard enough in life. We all know at least a few of those kids with rich parents who do absolutely nothing with their lives, despite coming from privilege.
Lemastre said:
Excellent question. The repubs, too, are headed by an elite class. The difference is providing the opportunity for the grass roots of the party (or anyone in the country) to climb from where they came, or for that matter allowing the elitists' kids to end up losers and slackers, unlike their parents, because they didn't try hard enough in life. We all know at least a few of those kids with rich parents who do absolutely nothing with their lives, despite coming from privilege.