Lisa Simpson
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1inChrist said:
Because I don't believe in a myth. Like Santa, the Tooth Fairy or the IPU--it's all made up.
Lisa Simpson
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BTW--I won.
Re: Re: Why don't you believe in Hell?
Why do atheists always repeat this dribble? I do not believe Hell is a myth and either do you. You know Hell is not like Santa Clause or the Tooth Fairy because Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy were created for children and on purpose. Hell is a spiritual and philosophical idea that many people believe to be real.
Lisa Simpson said:
Why do atheists always repeat this dribble? I do not believe Hell is a myth and either do you. You know Hell is not like Santa Clause or the Tooth Fairy because Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy were created for children and on purpose. Hell is a spiritual and philosophical idea that many people believe to be real.
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Re: Re: Re: Why don't you believe in Hell?
Do not tell me what I believe troll-boy. Hell is a myth that was created to scare people into behaving. BTW--just because a lot of people believe something doesn't make it true.
1inChrist said:
Do not tell me what I believe troll-boy. Hell is a myth that was created to scare people into behaving. BTW--just because a lot of people believe something doesn't make it true.
Z
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Re: Re: Re: Why don't you believe in Hell?
Bingo. Believe to be real.
Atheists don't believe.
Well, that was easy.
Besides, why be afraid of Hell, even if it WAS real? Jesus is the Ruler of Hell, and has freed all human souls condemned to hell.
You are saved by the Grace of God. Period.
For my own part, I usually answer X-tians this way:
"It's YOUR hell; YOU go to it."
1inChrist said:
Bingo. Believe to be real.
Atheists don't believe.
Well, that was easy.
Besides, why be afraid of Hell, even if it WAS real? Jesus is the Ruler of Hell, and has freed all human souls condemned to hell.
You are saved by the Grace of God. Period.
For my own part, I usually answer X-tians this way:
"It's YOUR hell; YOU go to it."
Re: Re: Re: Re: Why don't you believe in Hell?
No actually Hell is a fact proven by Jesus's resurrection after he was killed as a Sacrifice to the eternal Hellfire. However this is another debate and I rather stick to the topic so this thread doesn't go out of control.
If somebody thinks something it makes it real. Not physically real but mentally real. However I believe only the God whose Word is contained in the Holy Bible is truely more than a thought.
Lisa Simpson said:
No actually Hell is a fact proven by Jesus's resurrection after he was killed as a Sacrifice to the eternal Hellfire. However this is another debate and I rather stick to the topic so this thread doesn't go out of control.
If somebody thinks something it makes it real. Not physically real but mentally real. However I believe only the God whose Word is contained in the Holy Bible is truely more than a thought.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why don't you believe in Hell?
Point #1--that is from the Bible. The Bible is a story, not fact.
Point #2--It's real in your mind--but not mine.
Got it? You can believe whatever floats your boat, but I don't have to believe it too.
1inChrist said:
Point #1--that is from the Bible. The Bible is a story, not fact.
Point #2--It's real in your mind--but not mine.
Got it? You can believe whatever floats your boat, but I don't have to believe it too.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Why don't you believe in Hell?
You don't believe in anything?
How can you tell me you don't believe in anything?
God rules Hell. God is the ultimate lawmaker and has given us strict rules in the instruction manual for life. The manual says that those who do not follow Him and accept His Son's Sacrifice from the eternal Hellfire will not enter the Gates of Heaven.
YES! He sent down His only Son to die for you out of His love, His Glory and His Grace. He truely wants us to be with Him for eternity.
Actually, no, it's not. Hell is not for Christians. Hell is for those who choose a life of Sin over a life of God's will.
zaayrdragon said:
You don't believe in anything?
How can you tell me you don't believe in anything?
God rules Hell. God is the ultimate lawmaker and has given us strict rules in the instruction manual for life. The manual says that those who do not follow Him and accept His Son's Sacrifice from the eternal Hellfire will not enter the Gates of Heaven.
YES! He sent down His only Son to die for you out of His love, His Glory and His Grace. He truely wants us to be with Him for eternity.
Actually, no, it's not. Hell is not for Christians. Hell is for those who choose a life of Sin over a life of God's will.
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1inChrist said:
I dunno, why do you post your sick S&M fantasies to this forum?
Hey, whatever gets you through the night.
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Another nut who confuses 'fact' with 'fantasy.
Yeshua ben-Yosef was an Jewish preacher who openly spoke of rebelling against the established and corrupted Church in Rome.
Anything else is merely fiction.
Yeshua ben-Yosef was an Jewish preacher who openly spoke of rebelling against the established and corrupted Church in Rome.
Anything else is merely fiction.
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1inC, you have no evidence to support the existence of hell, or if it did exist, that you would go there when you die.
Q: How do you know that hell exists?
A: Because God/Jesus said so.
Q: How do you know that God/Jesus said so?
A: Because the bible said so.
Q: How do you know the bible is truthful and accurate?
A: Because the bible says it is truthful and accurate.
Do you see the problem here?
Q: How do you know that hell exists?
A: Because God/Jesus said so.
Q: How do you know that God/Jesus said so?
A: Because the bible said so.
Q: How do you know the bible is truthful and accurate?
A: Because the bible says it is truthful and accurate.
Do you see the problem here?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why don't you believe in Hell?
Where is your evidence that it's only a story and not a fact?
No it is real in your mind. Do you deny that you are thinking about God right now? You are thinking about Him which makes him mentally real even though you may not believe he's physically real.
If you want to enter His Kingdom than you do.
Lisa Simpson said:
Where is your evidence that it's only a story and not a fact?
No it is real in your mind. Do you deny that you are thinking about God right now? You are thinking about Him which makes him mentally real even though you may not believe he's physically real.
If you want to enter His Kingdom than you do.
How is this for an explanation:
BECAUSE IT'S FICTIONAL!
The only reason you're afraid of Hell is because you've been conditioned to believe otherwise. You are a slave, a prisoner, your actions inspired by fear of the whip, forever kept from making mature and responsible decisions for yourself. One day you will be whipped into a frenzy, and you will find yourself unable to stop until the blood of the innocent has stained your hands. Only then will you understand that you are nothing but property in the eyes of your superiors, who have fooled you into thinking their every decision is backed by the weight of the divine.
BECAUSE IT'S FICTIONAL!
The only reason you're afraid of Hell is because you've been conditioned to believe otherwise. You are a slave, a prisoner, your actions inspired by fear of the whip, forever kept from making mature and responsible decisions for yourself. One day you will be whipped into a frenzy, and you will find yourself unable to stop until the blood of the innocent has stained your hands. Only then will you understand that you are nothing but property in the eyes of your superiors, who have fooled you into thinking their every decision is backed by the weight of the divine.
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Another topic that has been brought up elsewhere is that of punishment.
1inC, would you agree that any sins committed while alive on Earth are "finite" in nature?
Would you also agree that hell is an infinite punishment for a finite crime?
Only a sadistic, malevolent, or insane god would commit people to an infinite punishment for a finite crime. Your god is irrelevant at best; insane at worst.
1inC, would you agree that any sins committed while alive on Earth are "finite" in nature?
Would you also agree that hell is an infinite punishment for a finite crime?
Only a sadistic, malevolent, or insane god would commit people to an infinite punishment for a finite crime. Your god is irrelevant at best; insane at worst.
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Cos, ol' pal, you've missed the slow boat.
Primarily Crispy here eschews all reasoning and logic as being 'of the Devil'. He starts from the first assumption that the Bible is Truth, then works from there. He also thinks alligators are so ornery 'cuz they gots all them teef and no toofbrush...
Primarily Crispy here eschews all reasoning and logic as being 'of the Devil'. He starts from the first assumption that the Bible is Truth, then works from there. He also thinks alligators are so ornery 'cuz they gots all them teef and no toofbrush...
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why don't you believe in Hell?
YOU are the one that has to prove fact, not me.
1inChrist said:
YOU are the one that has to prove fact, not me.
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I currently have Aphrodite on the mind. I'm imagining that She has buggered your God with a strap-on until he died. It's MENTALLY real for me... so you tell ME what's real?
rdaneel
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Wow, this thread is almost moving as fast as a chat room. 